absolutely true but the point can also be made that without hardware or the concept for hardware video games are completely useless or in other words hardware to run video games and video games themselves are mutually dependent on each other

if nintendo had made games without having the console or the concept for a console to run the games what would have been the point?

i didn't know that you were talking about the success rate i thought you were talking about the originality of it... well yes i definitely agree that nintendo has been the most successful gaming console company ever in terms of motion gaming... doesn't mean in the slightest way that they came up with the idea

If you look back at my original point, it was that getting stronger hardware was practically the only thing you had to do when coming out with new hardware. So Nintendo did something new (and bold) by deciding to push something other than the graphics capability as the main selling point of their new console.

Yes, this point can be made, but considering that Nintendo had both the hardware and the software, it doesn't help your argument in any way.

Bravo, you have just proven his point, which was that Nintendo was the first to succesfully combine hardware and software to create something new, something which hasn't been done before and actually worked.

what i have been saying : nintendo did not come up with the idea of using a motion stick for gaming

what you have been saying : but the le stick didn't get any released games

...and I've shown you that Data Soft didn't use Le Stick as a motion stick for gaming as none of their games made use of it.

... ok doesn't change the fact that datasoft made the motion wand first and nintendo copied the idea... which is my point...

Your argument has nothing to do with the original argument. 

The first argument was "Nintendo decided to differentiate their console through something other than raw horsepower.", which has nothing to do with the originality of a wand with motion controls. So your argument of "Nintendo didn't come up with this idea." is completely irrelevant in this discussion.

You're confusing the terms invention and innovation. Nintendo didn't copy nor did they invent (which no one here is saying). They innovated this gen, more so than their competitors.