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hacking has resulted in almost nothing but bad results for psp and ps3 owners regardless of what the hacker supporters here may say... it resulted in piracy, cheating online, removal of features, etc because the assholes who hack usually don't keep the results of their hacks to themselves if that were the case i would be one of the biggest supporters of console hacking ever... but i can't get behind it seeing the results of what guys like geohot and dark alex have done



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Ajescent said:
Ppl will still want to hack the psv just so they can do the homebrew thing because you know...nothing better than 8bit pong right?


That's awesome. Will allow me to "back-up" my "legally bought" games. Because it's something I really need.



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o_O.Q said:

hacking has resulted in almost nothing but bad results for psp and ps3 owners regardless of what the hacker supporters here may say... it resulted in piracy, cheating online, removal of features, etc because the assholes who hack usually don't keep the results of their hacks to themselves if that were the case i would be one of the biggest supporters of console hacking ever... but i can't get behind it seeing the results of what guys like geohot and dark alex have done


you need to refocus your anger at those that cheat and pirate and hack others. Not those that simply hack their own consoles (and telling others how to hack their own conloses is fine too). That is the problem with a lot of people on this site, they want to label all hacking as bad when hacking is just an act that can be bad or good. You should clarify that its the pirates and cheaters you loathe and not "hackers" as that just will make people come out to define the point. Hacking your own console for your own uses if perfectly fine and should not be looked down upon.



Dgc1808 said:
Ajescent said:
Ppl will still want to hack the psv just so they can do the homebrew thing because you know...nothing better than 8bit pong right?


That's awesome. Will allow me to "back-up" my "legally bought" games. Because it's something I really need.

Oh so true.



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thranx said:
o_O.Q said:

hacking has resulted in almost nothing but bad results for psp and ps3 owners regardless of what the hacker supporters here may say... it resulted in piracy, cheating online, removal of features, etc because the assholes who hack usually don't keep the results of their hacks to themselves if that were the case i would be one of the biggest supporters of console hacking ever... but i can't get behind it seeing the results of what guys like geohot and dark alex have done


you need to refocus your anger at those that cheat and pirate and hack others. Not those that simply hack their own consoles (and telling others how to hack their own conloses is fine too). That is the problem with a lot of people on this site, they want to label all hacking as bad when hacking is just an act that can be bad or good. You should clarify that its the pirates and cheaters you loathe and not "hackers" as that just will make people come out to define the point. Hacking your own console for your own uses if perfectly fine and should not be looked down upon.


i'm quite sure this wasn't what ajescent was reffering to i'm thinking hes reffering to guys like geohot who knowingly release hacks that have effects on all of the specific console's community



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o_O.Q said:
thranx said:
o_O.Q said:

hacking has resulted in almost nothing but bad results for psp and ps3 owners regardless of what the hacker supporters here may say... it resulted in piracy, cheating online, removal of features, etc because the assholes who hack usually don't keep the results of their hacks to themselves if that were the case i would be one of the biggest supporters of console hacking ever... but i can't get behind it seeing the results of what guys like geohot and dark alex have done


you need to refocus your anger at those that cheat and pirate and hack others. Not those that simply hack their own consoles (and telling others how to hack their own conloses is fine too). That is the problem with a lot of people on this site, they want to label all hacking as bad when hacking is just an act that can be bad or good. You should clarify that its the pirates and cheaters you loathe and not "hackers" as that just will make people come out to define the point. Hacking your own console for your own uses if perfectly fine and should not be looked down upon.


i'm quite sure this wasn't what ajescent was reffering to i'm thinking hes reffering to guys like geohot who knowingly release hacks that have effects on all of the specific console's community


Geohot did not pirate nor did he hack the psn. So what did he do wrong exactly in your eyes? All he did was utilize equiptment he bought the way he wanted and he harmed no one in the process

 

The people who hacked the psn and pirated were not geohot. If he had, criminal charges would have brought against him as both of those actions are illegal. So if you are fine with people owning the items they buy than you should be on geohots side.



thranx said:
Ajescent said:
Ppl will still want to hack the psv just so they can do the homebrew thing because you know...nothing better than 8bit pong right?


people will do it becuase its their device and they can do what they want. Legally. No matter how much it seems to diplease you, people can still legally hack and alter their own devices to their wildest dreams. Crazy idea i know, that people can do what they want with the things they own. What a shame.

its illegal to hack and alter the software without permission of SONY, so they can delete the software and program there own if you want because the hardware is yours. 



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mchaza said:
thranx said:
Ajescent said:
Ppl will still want to hack the psv just so they can do the homebrew thing because you know...nothing better than 8bit pong right?


people will do it becuase its their device and they can do what they want. Legally. No matter how much it seems to diplease you, people can still legally hack and alter their own devices to their wildest dreams. Crazy idea i know, that people can do what they want with the things they own. What a shame.

its illegal to hack and alter the software without permission of SONY, so they can delete the software and program there own if you want because the hardware is yours. 


I have not found any case in which that is true. As far as I know they are allowed to alter the programming too



thranx said:
o_O.Q said:
thranx said:
o_O.Q said:

hacking has resulted in almost nothing but bad results for psp and ps3 owners regardless of what the hacker supporters here may say... it resulted in piracy, cheating online, removal of features, etc because the assholes who hack usually don't keep the results of their hacks to themselves if that were the case i would be one of the biggest supporters of console hacking ever... but i can't get behind it seeing the results of what guys like geohot and dark alex have done


you need to refocus your anger at those that cheat and pirate and hack others. Not those that simply hack their own consoles (and telling others how to hack their own conloses is fine too). That is the problem with a lot of people on this site, they want to label all hacking as bad when hacking is just an act that can be bad or good. You should clarify that its the pirates and cheaters you loathe and not "hackers" as that just will make people come out to define the point. Hacking your own console for your own uses if perfectly fine and should not be looked down upon.


i'm quite sure this wasn't what ajescent was reffering to i'm thinking hes reffering to guys like geohot who knowingly release hacks that have effects on all of the specific console's community


Geohot did not pirate nor did he hack the psn. So what did he do wrong exactly in your eyes? All he did was utilize equiptment he bought the way he wanted and he harmed no one in the process

 

The people who hacked the psn and pirated were not geohot. If he had, criminal charges would have brought against him as both of those actions are illegal. So if you are fine with people owning the items they buy than you should be on geohots side.


he on two occasions distributed tools allowing for people to break the systems security... which is what people were angry about in the first place... the thing you people who say this

"All he did was utilize equiptment he bought the way he wanted and he harmed no one in the process"

don't get is that it is complete and utter folly... if he had "harmed no one in the process" no one would associate him with hacking and the ps3 but because of his hacks he has that reputation... specifically because some of the things he distributed caused massive harm i don't get how people don't understand this... if his hacks affected no one how do you know about him and what hes done? obviously because there was an effect



Going back to orginal topic i think it's smart move on Sony side - those ultra cheap games can generate tons of revenue for platform owner if you have a mass of them and they counter smartphone gaming threat at least a bit.



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