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finalsquall said:
NJ5 said:
finalsquall said:
Soon
Only
Nintendo
Yields

Ps3 will overtake 360 this year. Then the true battle will be on. I think even HOME is going to amaze people and appeal to girls and casuals.

Nintendo has this year, then will have to yield to Sony :D in 2009 :D


Can I coin a new acronym for this forum?

DTM - Do The Maths.

The PS3 can't overtake the 360 this year, unless Microsoft drops out of the console business very soon.

 

Can I do one for you.

No
i
need
to
eat
dinner
ok!

Thanks for the Math Lesson :P Go Sony!!!


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LOL you got me :P but I fixed it :P better than DTM... WTF is DTM.

But seriously, you doubt Sony and the numbers it can pull. This is the 360's last year in 2nd place. Once the UK, France and Au start to sell more ps3's than 360, will we see a great increase. Jap will start to accept the ps3 more and sales for N/A can only get better.

That is imo - which is like everyone else's - Speculation. My thought here is, People are pro wii because it is leading atm. How many were pro Nintendo before the Wii? I doubt many. So people like to back the winner. The winner is not decided and to speculate that the Wii is going to win is not true as of yet.

In my view, the Wii will lose steam and eventually fall behind. That is where the ps3 as a stable runner - pacing will catch up. Sorry Wii fans next few years is going to be rough for the wii - imo. I'll respect true Nintendo fans - not these new/ wannabe fans that back a console because they are winning.



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finalsquall said:
LOL you got me :P but I fixed it :P better than DTM... WTF is DTM.

But seriously, you doubt Sony and the numbers it can pull. This is the 360's last year in 2nd place. One the UK, France and Au start to sell more ps3 then 360 will we see a great increase. Jap will start to accept the ps3 more, and sales for N/A can only get better.

That is imo - which is like everyone else's - Speculation. My thought here is. People are pro wii because it is leading atm. How many were pro Nintendo before the Wii? I doubt many. So people like to back the winner. The winner is not decided and to speculate that the Wii is going to win is not true as of yet. In my view, the Wii will lose steam and eventually fall behind. That is where the ps3 as a stable runner - pacing will catch up. Sorry Wii fans next few years is going to be rough for the wii - imo.

I'll respect true Nintendo fans - not these new/ wannabe fans that back a console because they are winning.

Well, I think Microsoft will have to drop their prices, especially in Europe, in order to effectively compete against the PS3. It's a hard battle there for MS, the Playstation brand name is really strong here.

However, that has nothing to do with the maths. Any simulation of 2008 sales, even using the worst case for the 360 and the best case for the PS3 shouldn't have the PS3 passing 360 sales this year, unless the PS3 starts selling as much as the Wii does or the 360 is officially cancelled (which no one in their right mind should expect).

 



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Looks like America alone can't save the 360 now.....as numbers for the PS3 are getting closer per week in NA, numbers in Others are expanding between the two, and Japan.......well in the 360s case, that's PS3 land



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The ps3 is half way of the 360 in over a year. The ps3 is selling better than the 360 during the same time. There are alot of PS fans waiting. GTA4 will bring alot of fans, and lets not forget what NCsoft or other new Devs to the console can do. Online games may even surprise people. Just say a game with the potential of Wow came to the ps3? So the future is uncertain.This is my opinion and my opinion stinks compared to others.



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finalsquall said:


Ps3 will overtake 360 this year. Then the true battle will be on. I think even HOME is going to amaze people and appeal to girls and casuals.

Nintendo has this year, then will have to yield to Sony :D in 2009 :D


You've got to be kidding me right, you're overstating the value of HOME. It won't attract casual gamers because it's just not practical, why would they use the socialising network on HOME when they could instead buy a cheaper PC and go on one of the many virtual worlds (like Second Life) on the internet instead?

Seriously, HOME is not going to be the next big thing, no chance, Sony has designed a product for a market segment they don't even exist in yet, the casual market. You must think all females and casual gamers are simpletons as well if they are going to come to the PS3 in droves for a laughable IM system, a "design your own room" that they'll get sick of in about 5 minutes and a trophy case (which they won't use because the PS3's casual lineup is a joke).

HOME would have been a more viable option in Late 09 or even 10, when they have cut prices to a point that would attract every day consumers.

I love it how PS3 fanboys think that just because they're gaining a +% growth in sales, means they will be a runaway success. Common sense dictates that sales will plateau at some point, yet they seem to think that they'll surpass the 360 in 08 and somehow the wii in 09. By that logic, it would mean that both Microsoft and Nintendo would have to pull all their console stock from the market AND stop production for the year for sony to accomplish that. Even then I doubt Sony would have caught up

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NJ5 said:
 

Well, I think Microsoft will have to drop their prices, especially in Europe,

 


Ahh... good old price fixing.  The way Microsoft always tries to win.  First Windows for $3 in countries other than the US just to hold marketshare from Linux (OLPC, etc.), and now violating monopoly laws in a group of countries well known for holding Microsoft to the coals.  Let's see how that turns out.  I hope they try.



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gamingdevil said:
Bonafide732 said:
carlos710 said:
hunter_alien said:
Because Sega was sayiong te same a month before they burried the Dreamcast ... thats why . People lie all the time you know .

Then go and say that to Capcom. In my case i take their word over yours.

Oh , and a game doesnt has only to break even , it also has to bring some profit in ...

Which most ps3 games have failed to achieve.

 

Don't forget that Zack & Wiki it's at about 150k now and still needs to be released in 'others'. It's obviously going to bring profits, like RE:UC is doing already.


the ps3 games that deserved to break even have done so...


Oh , and a game doesnt has only to break even , it also has to bring some profit in ...


Show me one big PS3 game that wont get profit for their company ... most ports allready make profit from the 360/PC versions , so the PS3 version will delete basicly the production costs ... now what company doesnt wants that ? Many Wii games are not multiplatform , maybe a PS2 version is in works to ... but if not a Wii game has to break even and get a profit alone ...



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Andir said:
NJ5 said:
 

Well, I think Microsoft will have to drop their prices, especially in Europe,

 


Ahh... good old price fixing. The way Microsoft always tries to win. First Windows for $3 in countries other than the US just to hold marketshare from Linux (OLPC, etc.), and now violating monopoly laws in a group of countries well known for holding Microsoft to the coals. Let's see how that turns out. I hope they try.


Are you being sarcastic? Have you looked at Sony, they predict to be losing money on PS3 hardware until 2009 at least... It seems that losing money on console hardware is a tradition by now, except for Nintendo.

BTW, I believe "price fixing" is not the correct term for what you're implying by quoting me.

finalsquall said:
The ps3 is half way of the 360 in over a year.

You're engaging in a subtle mathematical fallacy which I see a lot in these forums. Comparisons like that are like making a race between a 4-legged horse and a 2-legged horse. As long as the PS3 could sell at more than half of 360's weekly sales, that was bound to eventually happen.

It's not a great feat, especially considering that the PS3/360 gap has actually widened since the PS3 was launched.

 



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CAL4M1TY said:

finalsquall said:


Ps3 will overtake 360 this year. Then the true battle will be on. I think even HOME is going to amaze people and appeal to girls and casuals.

Nintendo has this year, then will have to yield to Sony :D in 2009 :D


You've got to be kidding me right, you're overstating the value of HOME. It won't attract casual gamers because it's just not practical, why would they use the socialising network on HOME when they could instead buy a cheaper PC and go on one of the many virtual worlds (like Second Life) on the internet instead?

Seriously, HOME is not going to be the next big thing, no chance, Sony has designed a product for a market segment they don't even exist in yet, the casual market. You must think all females and casual gamers are simpletons as well if they are going to come to the PS3 in droves for a laughable IM system, a "design your own room" that they'll get sick of in about 5 minutes and a trophy case (which they won't use because the PS3's casual lineup is a joke).

HOME would have been a more viable option in Late 09 or even 10, when they have cut prices to a point that would attract every day consumers.

I love it how PS3 fanboys think that just because they're gaining a +% growth in sales, means they will be a runaway success. Common sense dictates that sales will plateau at some point, yet they seem to think that they'll surpass the 360 in 08 and somehow the wii in 09. By that logic, it would mean that both Microsoft and Nintendo would have to pull all their console stock from the market AND stop production for the year for sony to accomplish that. Even then I doubt Sony would have caught up

Remember the old saying "Lightning doesn't strike twice?"


Lets just see how Home does. For one, players will meet up in game to play other games. They can have clan meetings, hold events, have parties. You have no idea what you could do with a community. I run a successful guild in UO and I know that when you run player events have meet ups etc it creates a deeper community.

 

Imagine a warhawk clan meet up. Talk about strategies, talk with other clans to start matches. That is where Home is going to rule. So just wait and see the potential. It's going to change gaming as we know it. 

 



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