probably not, but maybe he'll learn.  as i believe you stated above, all three have done some bundling at some point.

Sony bundled new IP's just like Microsoft did and then they stopped. The only difference is the bundles were for two totally different demographics.

I think you do that enough yourself. For example:

 Limited, as in as long as they last. Which like Heavenly Sword, was the best part of a year. Plus you fail again.  Read the date or get some glasses, 31st October 2007 - Some weeks before Uncharted : DF released.  Pay attention or you will look ignorant.

They confirm the games didn't sell well at all, then bundles , then ?????, then profit. This is Sony level bundling.

So "bogus" you have yet to refute any of it. I'm not shocked.

I said it struggled to top 6 million, not that it didn't. But way not to read.

Why didn't I mention the other guy, because he was closer maybe?

What is a tempory bundle anyway? A bundle that ends before the console ceases manufacturing. A bundles a bundles a bundle- as long as its official.

Oh I see. So now you're back peddling from "GT5 wasn't bundled day 1" stance to it was, but only in Europe a lot, but in Japan the bundle was limited.

Cute. Your posting style reminds me of a guy so incredibly insecure that they'll derail an Microsoft thread to defend Sony level bundling.

CGI-Quality said:I have a feeling mendoza won't try to tackle this post

Unsurprisingly you are completely incorrect again.

First off, this response was to someone called wilco, not me.

Secondly:

Halo 3/Fable 2 bundle - First rumoured April 2009 - Halo 3 sales at this point were over 8 million, Fable II over 2.6 million - we already know those games sold without bundling.

ODST & Forza 3 bundle - Came 6 months later, ODST again, 5 million+ at this time, but Forza 3 I absoloutly agree was Sony level bundling. Although as we learned from Che later on, it did 2 million sans bundles.

Halo Wars/ Halo 3 - Halo 3 we have already discussed, Halo Wars was indeed bundled in Europe, but fared well with 600K in the US sans bundle. Of course I never used Halo Wars as an example so it is redundant.

Alright everybody, back to the discussion at hand, can Gears 3 make it to 10m. Doesn't seem like this side discussion is going to go anywhere but down. So stop derailing the thread and let's get back on topic.

Ironically you're the only one who attempted to derail this thread, everyone else was mature and sensible -  i'm guessing was due to the fact that pointing out Sony level bundling prompted an immediate defense response from yourself. You need to get over your insecurites and be less biased and skewed view of Sonys failures this gen and leave our Microsoft discussions free of your drivel.

Thread derailed = "I love Sony so I must defend their desperate tactics" - CGI Quality - "10 million Easily"

I don't think i've ever seen someone so desperately defend the misteps of a corperate entity.

not posting off topic as quickly isn't the same as not at all, you two can take it to walls/PMs if you want to keep the conversation going, but not here.

My next prediction is... your wrong.

Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony have all shared a good amount of missed steps this gen.  Microsoft is losing steam with AAA exclusives and is now solely reliant on the casual crowd, Nintendo is losing steam with new IP's and Sony is coming back after losing steam before the 2009 period (not to say that they wonnt lose steam again either).

I don't know I can't see Gears 3 selling 10 million TBH.

Between 7.5-8.5 is a pretty safe bet though.