As there is no direct feed footage of forza 4 yet. Both were done off cam to be fair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrjKzCseZME

we will only be able to tell the difference when we play it

its not clear

Watching that on my phone the only things that stood out were...

Forza looked shinier.
GT had smoke.
GT used a good car.

Thats about it. Pointless comparison vid really.

Don't forget the trees in the background of FM4 blowing in the wind.

 Both 'off-screen' vids loked good to me.

Kinda pointless comparison seeing as their wasn't data that we got from that other then F4 looks waaay better as far as scenery goes.

Trees def look better on forza 4. The fact that we are even comparing the two debunks the myth of the ps3s supposed power advantage. PD had 5 years on gt5 vs only 2 for TURN 10....and forza 4 looks better.

you know... If someone would tell me this footage is from the same game.. I would believe them...and he almost lost it in the gambon corner! :)

Forza looks shinier, especially the track itself.

GT5 looked more realistic; it's never that sunny in Britain!

FM3 has better scenery the GT5.