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CDiablo on 11 July 2011
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

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-Jim Sterling

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Zlejedi on 11 July 2011
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.

I never paid more than 25 euro for game that requires steam :D



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Ail on 11 July 2011
vlad321 said:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/battlefield-3/1181544p1.html

Report: You Won't Find Battlefield 3 on Steam

By Mike Sharkey | Jul 11, 2011
No official confirmation yet, but it appears DICE's shooter is being kept off of Valve's digital shelves.

Origin, Direct2Drive, and GamersGate will all be selling digital copies of DICE's anticipated shooter, Battlefield 3, according to a leaked list from Electronic Arts. And while it has yet to be confirmed, it appears the biggest PC digital distribution platform in the world, Steam, will be excluded.

EA and Valve got into a bit of a dust-up last month when Crysis 2 disappeared from Valve's online storefront, Steam. Valve remained mum about the whole thing while EA pointed the finger at Valve. Now it appears EA will be avoiding Steam altogether with what will likely be one of the biggest games it has ever published.


On Sunday, Joystiq spotted the since removed listing of Battlefield 3 digital distribution partners on EA's official site. Electronic Arts and Valve have yet to respond to requests for comment, but a recent forum post by EA on its policy on selling games on third-party sites, along with the recent Crysis 2 issue, indicates the two sides are at an impasse.

"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service -- many of which are not imposed by other online game services," EA stated when Crysis 2 was removed from Steam. "Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."

Shortly thereafter, EA had this to say about its third-party site policy: "When a download service forbids publishers from contacting players with patches, new levels, items and other services – it disrupts our ability to provide the ongoing support players expect from us. At present, this is the case with only one download service. While EA offers its entire portfolio to this site, they have elected to not post many of our games. We hope to find a mutually agreeable solution to this issue soon."

Again, EA and Valve have yet to confirm whether or not Battlefield 3 will sell on Steam when the game is released on October 25. However, the game is already available for pre-order at competitors like Direct2Drive but is nowhere to be found on Steam.

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They shoudl have jsut said that they hated money, really. However, I wonder what those business terms actually are that he talks so much about.


Valve titles can't be found on Direct2Drive, I don't see you bitching about that.....

I mean if it's ok for Valve to do it, surely it's ok for their competitors to do it too, nope ?



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vlad321 on 11 July 2011
Ail said:
vlad321 said:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/battlefield-3/1181544p1.html

Report: You Won't Find Battlefield 3 on Steam

By Mike Sharkey | Jul 11, 2011
No official confirmation yet, but it appears DICE's shooter is being kept off of Valve's digital shelves.

Origin, Direct2Drive, and GamersGate will all be selling digital copies of DICE's anticipated shooter, Battlefield 3, according to a leaked list from Electronic Arts. And while it has yet to be confirmed, it appears the biggest PC digital distribution platform in the world, Steam, will be excluded.

EA and Valve got into a bit of a dust-up last month when Crysis 2 disappeared from Valve's online storefront, Steam. Valve remained mum about the whole thing while EA pointed the finger at Valve. Now it appears EA will be avoiding Steam altogether with what will likely be one of the biggest games it has ever published.


On Sunday, Joystiq spotted the since removed listing of Battlefield 3 digital distribution partners on EA's official site. Electronic Arts and Valve have yet to respond to requests for comment, but a recent forum post by EA on its policy on selling games on third-party sites, along with the recent Crysis 2 issue, indicates the two sides are at an impasse.

"Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service -- many of which are not imposed by other online game services," EA stated when Crysis 2 was removed from Steam. "Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam."

Shortly thereafter, EA had this to say about its third-party site policy: "When a download service forbids publishers from contacting players with patches, new levels, items and other services – it disrupts our ability to provide the ongoing support players expect from us. At present, this is the case with only one download service. While EA offers its entire portfolio to this site, they have elected to not post many of our games. We hope to find a mutually agreeable solution to this issue soon."

Again, EA and Valve have yet to confirm whether or not Battlefield 3 will sell on Steam when the game is released on October 25. However, the game is already available for pre-order at competitors like Direct2Drive but is nowhere to be found on Steam.

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They shoudl have jsut said that they hated money, really. However, I wonder what those business terms actually are that he talks so much about.


Valve titles can't be found on Direct2Drive, I don't see you bitching about that.....

I mean if it's ok for Valve to do it, surely it's ok for their competitors to do it too, nope ?

Wrong. I bitch about that, and about the fact I can only get Blizzard's games from their store. Please play again though.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 on 11 July 2011
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.


LIVE is probably the absolutely worst service I have ever had the choice in experiencing. I would rather go back to using Heat.net than put up with that shit.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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SnesTea on 12 July 2011
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.

Slow down. Are you really a PC gamer? GFWL sucks. A lot.



CDiablo on 13 July 2011
Snesboy said:
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.

Slow down. Are you really a PC gamer? GFWL sucks. A lot.


Obviously a PC gamer. I have only used GFWL on 3&1/2 games(Dawn of War 2+Chaos rising, Blacklight and Section 8 Prejudice). Only issue I have come across is I dont get XBL achievements on Secion 8(not a huge deal). Other than that its been great having XBL intergration. I have had insignifigant problems with Steam as well. With all due respect I think many in the PC gamer(not accusing you) community has been anti-MS for a wide array of reasons and are pro Steam due to it being Valve and them having insane sales. I dont believe the horror stories I hear about GFWL and while problems exist it works just fine. I actually hate all DD services except GOG but at least GFWL has a benifit.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

vlad321 on 13 July 2011
CDiablo said:
Snesboy said:
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.

Slow down. Are you really a PC gamer? GFWL sucks. A lot.


Obviously a PC gamer. I have only used GFWL on 3&1/2 games(Dawn of War 2+Chaos rising, Blacklight and Section 8 Prejudice). Only issue I have come across is I dont get XBL achievements on Secion 8(not a huge deal). Other than that its been great having XBL intergration. I have had insignifigant problems with Steam as well. With all due respect I think many in the PC gamer(not accusing you) community has been anti-MS for a wide array of reasons and are pro Steam due to it being Valve and them having insane sales. I dont believe the horror stories I hear about GFWL and while problems exist it works just fine. I actually hate all DD services except GOG but at least GFWL has a benifit.

That's not clsoe to being true though. The entire PC gamer community hated Steam because Steam was a smoking pile of shit when it first rolled out with Half-Life 2. THen it got kind of better and then here it is now. I won't lie, when GFWL first came out it made Steam's initial problems seem like a smooth launch (pay to play online? LAWL). Furthermore in any dispute between Mac and PC, etc. gamers always side with Microsoft since forever, for obcious reasons.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

SnesTea on 14 July 2011
CDiablo said:
Snesboy said:
CDiablo said:
Zlejedi said:
I'm geting it retail anyway but it's sickening how EA pushes their own store down the consumers troat even if they don't want it.

Then you must really be sickened by the amount of games that push Steam down customers throats.

No one should be suprised by this news, its clear EA is making a move on the DD market after the Crysis 2 thing. I for one am happy that it is not on Steam but wish it wasnt on origin. I'd prefer it on GFWL(If I was forced to have it on a "content lisencing" website) personally just for the XBL intergration.  People will suck it up and use origin to play the best FPS of the year.

Slow down. Are you really a PC gamer? GFWL sucks. A lot.


Obviously a PC gamer. I have only used GFWL on 3&1/2 games(Dawn of War 2+Chaos rising, Blacklight and Section 8 Prejudice). Only issue I have come across is I dont get XBL achievements on Secion 8(not a huge deal). Other than that its been great having XBL intergration. I have had insignifigant problems with Steam as well. With all due respect I think many in the PC gamer(not accusing you) community has been anti-MS for a wide array of reasons and are pro Steam due to it being Valve and them having insane sales. I dont believe the horror stories I hear about GFWL and while problems exist it works just fine. I actually hate all DD services except GOG but at least GFWL has a benifit.

Alright, I see your point.

Though, some of the horror stories are true, most the of the time, they are over-exaggerations. My only problem with GFWL is that I was playing GTA IV offline and when I connected my Live account to it, it erased my previous saves and I had to repeat the first part of GTA IV (it was too much, just like an hour of missions) and thank goodness for the cutscene skip button.

I do like that GFWL connects with my Live account and I can get achievements for that but overall, Steam is a better service. Granted, it was a steaming ;) pile of shit when it launched in 2004, didn't really get usable until The Orange Box came out and it's useful has increased tenfold since then.

Anyway, I'm rambling, thanks for clearing that up.

P.S. GOG is awesome (high fives)



CDiablo on 14 July 2011

@snesboy: I would be quite bitter if I ever lost a save if I was deep into a game as well.

Also I did not know of the horrors of Steam even though I had HL2 shortly after launch. TBH honest I am really getting tired of having all these content managing frontends on my computer. Steam(like 200 games), GFWL(another dozen), Impulse(Sins of a Solar Empire) and Im definitely getting BF3 so I assume I will have origin.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling