emulators are illegal if they are used for profiteering

you can bend the rules but it will be illegal

its like saying i have an 360 and halo but i rip the game disc and play it on my pc

but that is just an excuse,that doesn't happen most of the time.

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No they aren't. I can go to the local gameshop and pick up a knock-off of a Dreamcast/N64/SNES with no problem. They play all the games easily. 

Heck,  it even disproves that statement in the link I posted. Look at Bleem! they sold emus for playstation systems, Sony sued them and lost. Because it isn't illegal. 

Secondly you are changing you argument which means you don't have any clue of what you are talking about. A couple posts ago Dolphin(free emu) was illegal, now just emus that are used for profit?

And violating DMR is breaking the law. You can't legally rip a computer game in the United States. It breaks the DMCA fyi 

I would assume so. I guess it depends on if software is licensed to be played on a specific platform or not. Even then, I don't know what I'm talking about, so I just stay away from those kinds of things. Virtual Console and PS1 classic are sufficient for me.

Bleem won the case cause its defense was based against people owning PS1 console hardware and its games

not people who just owned the game.go check what happened then come back.

the free emulation thing was based on the PSX emulator making profit on android market,it didn't have anything to do with the dolphin one.

the fact is that its not big enough,the day it gets being used in masses,it will be banned

that way you could say the current PS3 priacy thing wasn't illegal either as its defense was based on the following

u owned  the game and PS3 and were then copying it to the HDD and playing it.that is fine,but that is not what happens.

if you still stand with your comment then u are as good as saying that piracy doesn't exist

1.I hate using Wikipedia but 

Sony sued them because they were selling emus... and Sony LOST

2. By law you can't sell open source software for a profit. That's basically the only rule to open source software. The emus that he was selling on the android marketplace were based on open source software. Therefor illegal. Note: illegal because he sold open source software, not because emus are illegal 

3. No, just no. 

4. Wah? 

4.5. Illegal, you can't rip games. That constitutes breaking DRM, which is a violation of the DMCA 

5. No, in fact I've said the opposite of this several times. Playing ROMs is ILLEGAL and is PIRACY!

yeah but how do you use an emulator,u can't use it without rom's or ripping games

and people make games based on console not where you could play it.that way everybody would start making pc games as everything could be emulated.

that way the the recent injunctions of PS3 jailbreak usb's shouldn't have stopped.they weren't even using open source but their own code to fool the PS3 of this

and get a better place than wiki to prove things.

I don't think that is true.  For example, I could download a PSX emulator, such as epsxe, legally.  I'm sure there is an option on epsxe to play PSX games via inserting the disc into the PC, which would be perfectly legal.  I could play my copies of the likes of FFIX and Metal Gear Solid on my PC via an emulator perfectly legally.

sure what u are saying is right

but why were those games made

they were made to be on ps1

that way everybody would not have to pay sony licensing to make games for their console and everybody would just start making games for any platform

it depends on what you want to emulate.

there is such a thing as "Abandonware" and games that have entered the public domain. The first kind are only illegal to play in principle, because there is nobody who holds the rights any more. the second kind is perfectly legal to play.

Everything else that involves any kind of copyright holder who can sue you = piracy

of course still depending on local laws.

there is also the issue that some emulators require the original copyrighted OS from the device they are emulating.

you may want to have a look at: http://www.abandonia.com/ they do have a FAQ page

The answer to the question is a definitive no. While some emulation software can, and will be used for the purposes of piracy. There is legitimate emulation software. Where all parties involved agree upon the legality of the software in question. Any existing exception denies the validity of any contrary argument. For example it is perfectly legal to create a emulator for a existing massive online game, run a server for that game, and modify that game.

All that the server side user must do is follow some simple guidelines. They must not operate at a profit, and they must not advocate or support piracy. Those who run these servers didn't arbitrarily reach this conclusion either. This is what the companies have agreed to as being legal and fair use. Once that happens it becomes entirely just, because the companies have waved any right, and have in fact given a blessing.

So there you have it emulation software that is entirely legal. That isn't even exceptional. Others have pointed out public domain in this thread, but focused solely on grey interpretations. Which is simply not always the case. They have been lulled into thinking about public domain as being only a case of lapsed ownership or abandonment. It is often the case that the creator has opened the software up to public domain. Many studios before closing up will simply open their libraries up to public domain.