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snakenobi said:
Pyro as Bill said:
snakenobi said:
Pyro as Bill said:
"But then I question if BIG BANG happened,what made it happened.Scientist say it was because of Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding.But where did they come from?"

Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding? A scientist said this?


its just one of many theories


No. It really isn't.

yes it is

I already asked you in a previous post for a source for that but it might have been overlooked as it was a long post so let me ask again:

Could you please link us to the source of that specific big bang theory you insist exists that involves Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding? And the name of the scientist(s) putting it forward too, please. Note that said scientist should be from a relevant field, otherwise it would be like an imam proposing a theory on transmogrification in the catholic faith.

I ask because no scientist in the relevant fields worth half his diploma would utter a theory of the big bang displaying such a fundamental lack of understanding of the very concept of the big bang and I suspect that you either badly misunderstood something you read about it. The alternative is that you are making things up.



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Sri Lumpa said:
snakenobi said:
Pyro as Bill said:
snakenobi said:
Pyro as Bill said:
"But then I question if BIG BANG happened,what made it happened.Scientist say it was because of Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding.But where did they come from?"

Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding? A scientist said this?


its just one of many theories


No. It really isn't.

yes it is

I already asked you in a previous post for a source for that but it might have been overlooked as it was a long post so let me ask again:

Could you please link us to the source of that specific big bang theory you insist exists that involves Nitrogen and Hydrogen colliding? And the name of the scientist(s) putting it forward too, please. Note that said scientist should be from a relevant field, otherwise it would be like an imam proposing a theory on transmogrification in the catholic faith.

I ask because no scientist in the relevant fields worth half his diploma would utter a theory of the big bang displaying such a fundamental lack of understanding of the very concept of the big bang and I suspect that you either badly misunderstood something you read about it. The alternative is that you are making things up.

i read it somewhere.

google it you will find it.

different scientists have different ways of proving it.



I'm sure it has already been mentioned, but those two options are not mutually exclusive.

EDIT: What is this hydrogen and nitrogen shit?  That is just wrong.  Hydrogen and nitrogen did not exist before the big bang.  How could something that does not exist cause the big bang?



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snakenobi said:

i am not.its just that you think when you haven't even been there to know everything about it.

its like people thought only birds could fly back in the day but when people built planes,then they changed their mind

what you are saying is correct,i totally agree but we have to once atleast know it from inside out

we are just speculating about relgion in the same way we are speculate about big bang,just assumption by our current day mindset

Um, I'm quite sure people have always been aware of the fact that insects can fly (and so can mammals, such as bats). And people aren't really speculating abiut religion, as religion only exists in the minds of people. They're just making things up.



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Metallicube said:

Can't it be both? My theory is that some higher power that we cannot comprehend, brought into motion the big bang theory. And the rest is history :P


Basically this.. I am quite inclined to believing that God created the universe and that religion is strong (Well some forms). Although i do alternate between being an agnostic and a theist. 

And i would really hope that people here respect each other's opinions.. this kind of debate never ends well which is why I tend to avoid it. I'm hoping VGC is different :P (I havent read the previous posts yet)



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sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

i am not.its just that you think when you haven't even been there to know everything about it.

its like people thought only birds could fly back in the day but when people built planes,then they changed their mind

what you are saying is correct,i totally agree but we have to once atleast know it from inside out

we are just speculating about relgion in the same way we are speculate about big bang,just assumption by our current day mindset

Um, I'm quite sure people have always been aware of the fact that insects can fly (and so can mammals, such as bats). And people aren't really speculating abiut religion, as religion only exists in the minds of people. They're just making things up.

yeah birds and all those flying things,people that that just couldn't imagaine them doing it.neither could people back in the day imagine computers and how we live today

i do not believe in relgion but do believe in GOD as in that first power not in the way that religion describes it



snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

i am not.its just that you think when you haven't even been there to know everything about it.

its like people thought only birds could fly back in the day but when people built planes,then they changed their mind

what you are saying is correct,i totally agree but we have to once atleast know it from inside out

we are just speculating about relgion in the same way we are speculate about big bang,just assumption by our current day mindset

Um, I'm quite sure people have always been aware of the fact that insects can fly (and so can mammals, such as bats). And people aren't really speculating abiut religion, as religion only exists in the minds of people. They're just making things up.

yeah birds and all those flying things,people that that just couldn't imagaine them doing it.neither could people back in the day imagine computers and how we live today

i do not believe in relgion but do believe in GOD as in that first power not in the way that religion describes it

I think humans have been envisioning themselves flying for a long time. Remember Icarus? (not the video game character)



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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:
sapphi_snake said:
snakenobi said:

i am not.its just that you think when you haven't even been there to know everything about it.

its like people thought only birds could fly back in the day but when people built planes,then they changed their mind

what you are saying is correct,i totally agree but we have to once atleast know it from inside out

we are just speculating about relgion in the same way we are speculate about big bang,just assumption by our current day mindset

Um, I'm quite sure people have always been aware of the fact that insects can fly (and so can mammals, such as bats). And people aren't really speculating abiut religion, as religion only exists in the minds of people. They're just making things up.

yeah birds and all those flying things,people that that just couldn't imagaine them doing it.neither could people back in the day imagine computers and how we live today

i do not believe in relgion but do believe in GOD as in that first power not in the way that religion describes it

I think humans have been envisioning themselves flying for a long time. Remember Icarus? (not the video game character)

some did,msot didn't

some envision of the future,most don't



I don't believe in a god. The believe in a god has no ground, There is not a single evidence for the existence of a god. There were a lot of things in the past that were not explainable, which can now be explained. Just because there are still things we can't explain doesn't indicate the existence of a god in the slightest.



snakenobi said:
i read it somewhere.

google it you will find it.

different scientists have different ways of proving it.

You are the one claiming it exists, the burden of proof is on you. You don't have to prove the theory, just that it exists.

If Hydrogen and Nitrogen collide you get ammonia. Sure, you could then use that ammonia as a feedstock to create a bomb but it is not the kind of bang the big bang theory talks about.

The problem about that theory and especially with claiming it to be a big bang theory is that the big bang theory is about the early stages of the universe whereas that theory talks about what would have been before this universe. Even if we were to find out that the universe would eventually stop expanding and start contracting in a reverse big bang (a big crunch) which would eventually explode again it still would have nothing to do with hydrogen and nitrogen atoms but would be due to the gravitational force.



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