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zarx on 02 July 2011
thismeintiel said:
Doobie_wop said:
I don't get it, I've watched videos, looked at screenshots and read previews, but I just can't see it, the game doesn't look that great. Sure it looks good, but we are at a point where we have 10 really good looking games releasing every year and RAGE doesn't seem to blow those other 9 games away.

Maybe I just haven't caught on, my mind may change when it releases my mind will change.

Personally, I think its just id propping up their own product.  Which, of course, any company will do, but I feel its going to bite them in the ass when their promises fall flat.  I mean come on, 60 FPS with HD (at least 720P) graphics, graphics that are supposed to be some of the best and not a mess of low polys/low res textures, with huge, expansive levels.  If Sony's first parties can't do this, there is no way a 3rd party developer can.  Especially with a multiplatform engine.  Even GeOW3 is fargoing AA to help get more out of the 360.  To me it seems just like like Crysis 2 with all its graphics hype.  Sure it could be easy on the eyes, but the graphics were inconsistent throughout the game, with texture pop-in and dips in frame rates.  I think when it gets closer to launch, id is going to realize they bit off a little more than they could chew and things are going to get cut.


RAGE has no AA on consoles and runs at 720p, may dip under 60fps or at least it did during alpha last year but should be at least as smothe as COD probably smother.

This is Cramack we are talking about and it's taken him 5+ years to craft an engine that was designed from the ground up to run @ 60fps on console.



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osamanobama on 02 July 2011
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
no way a 60 fps game will have the best graphics.
if games like KZ2/3, GOW3, UC2/3, or even Gears 3 could look as good as they do now (or close to it) with 60fps they would. all those games are in 720p, and gears even has to forgo AA to achieve it. so obviously those games are pushing consoles to their max.
So no way, rage will be in HD (720p) and it wont be a locked frame rate it will be like Black ops on PS3.
this game will use lots and lots of tricks to make it look good. and i doubt it will even look better than Crysis, let alone Uncharted 3

Console games in general use lots of tricks to make them look good especially linear little to no exploration games like KZ2/3, GOW3, UC2/3 and even Gears 3.


have you even played these games (other than gears). you have no idea what you are talking about. ignoring you calling this games linear with no exploration (which does not make their graphics any less impressive to more open games). being linear would have absolutely no correlation to the amount of tricks being done to fool the player to believing it has better graphics.

i can garentee that Rage will have inconsistant frame rate, not locked, will have screen tearing, and be sub HD. with subpar animations. Uncharted will be locked 30fps, great AA, 0% screen tear, have best animations, and be in HD.

id didnt just use some voodoo to find some secrect lost power in these consoles, that no other developer knows of, to make their game have all the stuff KZ, GOW, and Uncharted have, and then be kinda open world and 60fps. sorry im just not buying it

I dont care if i get banned for this but you and lot of other Sony followers on this site are acting like Uncharted or whatever exclusive Sony tells you to hype next is beyond anything which is pure bullcrap, seriously the games i listed there are very linear especially compared to a game like Rage so nit pick all you want but it doesnt change the fact that Rage is bigger and running at higher FPS than of those games so deal with it.

you do realize i said gears looks better than rage, right?

i havent hyped any game, nor do i do what "Sony tells me". i havent made any judgement on which is better in graphics or other wise regarding gears and uncharted betas. 

in fact, didnt i say Gears looks more polished than Uncharted.

if its anyone trying to hype their prefered consoles game it you. you in the gears vs uncharted beta, you in the xbox graphics forums.

and what does a game being bigger have anything to do with which has the better graphics, you were the person making the argument that since crysis 2 was less linear than most game, among other things it was going to have teh best graphicz eva. look how that turned out.

all im saying is a 60fps game, being slightly open world is going to look worse than games like uncharted.

chill bro, dont make this into a xbox vs ps3 thing



NoCtiS_NoX on 02 July 2011

I will believe it when I see it with my own eyes and a lot of sites clamoring that it is teh grapix kingz..



thismeintiel on 02 July 2011
zarx said:
thismeintiel said:
Doobie_wop said:
I don't get it, I've watched videos, looked at screenshots and read previews, but I just can't see it, the game doesn't look that great. Sure it looks good, but we are at a point where we have 10 really good looking games releasing every year and RAGE doesn't seem to blow those other 9 games away.

Maybe I just haven't caught on, my mind may change when it releases my mind will change.

Personally, I think its just id propping up their own product.  Which, of course, any company will do, but I feel its going to bite them in the ass when their promises fall flat.  I mean come on, 60 FPS with HD (at least 720P) graphics, graphics that are supposed to be some of the best and not a mess of low polys/low res textures, with huge, expansive levels.  If Sony's first parties can't do this, there is no way a 3rd party developer can.  Especially with a multiplatform engine.  Even GeOW3 is fargoing AA to help get more out of the 360.  To me it seems just like like Crysis 2 with all its graphics hype.  Sure it could be easy on the eyes, but the graphics were inconsistent throughout the game, with texture pop-in and dips in frame rates.  I think when it gets closer to launch, id is going to realize they bit off a little more than they could chew and things are going to get cut.


RAGE has no AA on consoles and runs at 720p, may dip under 60fps or at least it did during alpha last year but should be at least as smothe as COD probably smother.

This is Cramack we are talking about and it's taken him 5+ years to craft an engine that was designed from the ground up to run @ 60fps on console.

Well, if that's true, then it has already lost in my eyes.  A graphics king, in my eyes, shouldn't have a bunch of jaggies.  Now, don't get me wrong, it may be incredible on PC.  But as far as consoles go, I doubt it will be one of the greatest looking titles.  Of course, I'm only judging graphics, as that is the topic of this thread, not its quality in terms of gameplay.  Though, like I said before, from what I have seen so far it hasn't really impressed on those grounds.  Maybe that will change before launch.  Hopefully, there will be a demo.



 

zarx on 02 July 2011
thismeintiel said:
zarx said:
thismeintiel said:
Doobie_wop said:
I don't get it, I've watched videos, looked at screenshots and read previews, but I just can't see it, the game doesn't look that great. Sure it looks good, but we are at a point where we have 10 really good looking games releasing every year and RAGE doesn't seem to blow those other 9 games away.

Maybe I just haven't caught on, my mind may change when it releases my mind will change.

Personally, I think its just id propping up their own product.  Which, of course, any company will do, but I feel its going to bite them in the ass when their promises fall flat.  I mean come on, 60 FPS with HD (at least 720P) graphics, graphics that are supposed to be some of the best and not a mess of low polys/low res textures, with huge, expansive levels.  If Sony's first parties can't do this, there is no way a 3rd party developer can.  Especially with a multiplatform engine.  Even GeOW3 is fargoing AA to help get more out of the 360.  To me it seems just like like Crysis 2 with all its graphics hype.  Sure it could be easy on the eyes, but the graphics were inconsistent throughout the game, with texture pop-in and dips in frame rates.  I think when it gets closer to launch, id is going to realize they bit off a little more than they could chew and things are going to get cut.


RAGE has no AA on consoles and runs at 720p, may dip under 60fps or at least it did during alpha last year but should be at least as smothe as COD probably smother.

This is Cramack we are talking about and it's taken him 5+ years to craft an engine that was designed from the ground up to run @ 60fps on console.

Well, if that's true, then it has already lost in my eyes.  A graphics king, in my eyes, shouldn't have a bunch of jaggies.  Now, don't get me wrong, it may be incredible on PC.  But as far as consoles go, I doubt it will be one of the greatest looking titles.  Of course, I'm only judging graphics, as that is the topic of this thread, not its quality in terms of gameplay.  Though, like I said before, from what I have seen so far it hasn't really impressed on those grounds.  Maybe that will change before launch.  Hopefully, there will be a demo.

To be fair the no AA info is a year old so they may have added AA by now.



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Porcupine_I on 02 July 2011
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
no way a 60 fps game will have the best graphics.
if games like KZ2/3, GOW3, UC2/3, or even Gears 3 could look as good as they do now (or close to it) with 60fps they would. all those games are in 720p, and gears even has to forgo AA to achieve it. so obviously those games are pushing consoles to their max.
So no way, rage will be in HD (720p) and it wont be a locked frame rate it will be like Black ops on PS3.
this game will use lots and lots of tricks to make it look good. and i doubt it will even look better than Crysis, let alone Uncharted 3

Console games in general use lots of tricks to make them look good especially linear little to no exploration games like KZ2/3, GOW3, UC2/3 and even Gears 3.


have you even played these games (other than gears). you have no idea what you are talking about. ignoring you calling this games linear with no exploration (which does not make their graphics any less impressive to more open games). being linear would have absolutely no correlation to the amount of tricks being done to fool the player to believing it has better graphics.

i can garentee that Rage will have inconsistant frame rate, not locked, will have screen tearing, and be sub HD. with subpar animations. Uncharted will be locked 30fps, great AA, 0% screen tear, have best animations, and be in HD.

id didnt just use some voodoo to find some secrect lost power in these consoles, that no other developer knows of, to make their game have all the stuff KZ, GOW, and Uncharted have, and then be kinda open world and 60fps. sorry im just not buying it

I dont care if i get banned for this but you and lot of other Sony followers on this site are acting like Uncharted or whatever exclusive Sony tells you to hype next is beyond anything which is pure bullcrap, seriously the games i listed there are very linear especially compared to a game like Rage so nit pick all you want but it doesnt change the fact that Rage is bigger and running at higher FPS than of those games so deal with it.

and thus you shall be awarded the Selnor medal of graphical beknowestment



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zarx on 02 July 2011
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
i just love when a multi game have good graphics and the same small group of people all the time came here claiming the game it´s the best ever in graphics, bashing uncharted 2, kz3 and gow3 and saying that these games use tricks to look good

do you guys remenber crysis 2 threads ?

this game dont go to stores until august i think and people already know it´s the graphic´s king !!!

and this game is loosing hype that why the developer are making this interview promising great thinks lol, when game came out we will see the reviews !!!


he just said aguably it's fanboys that make a big deal out of it, at the very least it's by far the best looking 60fps game and people that have seen it seem to think it looks pretty damn good.



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