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What do you think?

They deserved to be kicked out 25 41.67%
 
They should not have been kicked out 35 58.33%
 
Total:60

"This is my personal opinion, regularly disupted by gay and straight people alike."

Seece said:

Being able to ackowledge beauty has nothing to do with sexual orientation 0_o, I find some women attractive, just like I find some games attractive, and paintings, and shit like that. You saying I wanna fuck a flower??

I would never sleep with a woman, I don't find their anatomy sexually appealing in ANY sense of the word. Sexuality is who you're SEXually attracted to. As in want to have sex with.

Beauty is not the same as attractiveness. Something can be beautiful, doesn't mean I am attracted to it. But we are talking about attractiveness in the form of humans between humans, not in general. 

See, you reacted how I expected, like many do. To me you are just a 95% to 5% person (or less even). Enough to deny/ignore what sexuality you have towards that 5% gender.

 

sapphi_snake said:

I understand your argument, and while I too think that most people have such feelings, I think you're stretching the definition of "bisexual" a little too much. Like Seece already said, finding someone aesthetically pleasing isn't the same as wanting to get off with them.

I use bisexual because I know of no better word. But I understand that last bit but after hearing from gay, straight and bisexual people all not knowing why the others can or can't 'get off with someone', it's the easiest explanation as with life in general, we all know nothing is as straight forward as just this, that or exactly inbetween.

But then personal opinion. I acknowledge that it's not exactly a popular one but it's my view.



Hmm, pie.

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The Fury said:

"This is my personal opinion, regularly disupted by gay and straight people alike."

Seece said:

Being able to ackowledge beauty has nothing to do with sexual orientation 0_o, I find some women attractive, just like I find some games attractive, and paintings, and shit like that. You saying I wanna fuck a flower??

I would never sleep with a woman, I don't find their anatomy sexually appealing in ANY sense of the word. Sexuality is who you're SEXually attracted to. As in want to have sex with.

Beauty is not the same as attractiveness. Something can be beautiful, doesn't mean I am attracted to it. But we are talking about attractiveness in the form of humans between humans, not in general. 

See, you reacted how I expected, like many do. To me you are just a 95% to 5% person (or less even). Enough to deny/ignore what sexuality you have towards that 5% gender.

 

sapphi_snake said:

I understand your argument, and while I too think that most people have such feelings, I think you're stretching the definition of "bisexual" a little too much. Like Seece already said, finding someone aesthetically pleasing isn't the same as wanting to get off with them.

I use bisexual because I know of no better word. But I understand that last bit but after hearing from gay, straight and bisexual people all not knowing why the others can or can't 'get off with someone', it's the easiest explanation as with life in general, we all know nothing is as straight forward as just this, that or exactly inbetween.

But then personal opinion. I acknowledge that it's not exactly a popular one but it's my view.

No I'm 100% gay, and my point is perfectly fine, attracted is another word for saying you find something beautiful.



 

Seece said:

While I think it was wrong to get rid of them, imagin if somehow eventually all the gays were phased out and it consisted of straight guys ... it's a GAY team for a reason.

Still though they could have let them stay on, just clamped down on any future hetro's in the cupboard!

And what reason is that? I understand that in the past gay players in any sport were discriminated against, but I don't think that attitude is accepted anymore. I know this is another direction for the discussion, but is this fighting discrimination with discrimination? 

There's too many sarcastic comments and questions coming into mind right now, and I'm not one to have an educated opinion about how easy or difficult it is to be gay , but sports leagues based on sexual orientation is  stupid. Not being black enough, white enough, gay enough or romanian enough is also fucking stupid.



Seece said:

No I'm 100% gay, and my point is perfectly fine, attracted is another word for saying you find something beautiful.

I'm not denying your ability to define yourself as gay or questioning your sexuality as whole, you desire men this is clear and it's the same response I get from alot of people. I am however talking specifically about sexual orientation attractiveness. Not just using the word attractive as a different word for beautiful. I find some music beautiful, I don't think I'd ever say it is attractive.



Hmm, pie.

manuel said:
If they're not gay they shouldn't be on a gay team.
But things like that are very hard to prove I guess.

If you ask me, it seems remarkably easy to prove.



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i disagree with the fury's assumption and think its discriminatory



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ithis said:
Seece said:

While I think it was wrong to get rid of them, imagin if somehow eventually all the gays were phased out and it consisted of straight guys ... it's a GAY team for a reason.

Still though they could have let them stay on, just clamped down on any future hetro's in the cupboard!

 

And what reason is that? I understand that in the past gay players in any sport were discriminated against, but I don't think that attitude is accepted anymore. I know this is another direction for the discussion, but is this fighting discrimination with discrimination? 

There's too many sarcastic comments and questions coming into mind right now, and I'm not one to have an educated opinion about how easy or difficult it is to be gay , but sports leagues based on sexual orientation is  stupid. Not being black enough, white enough, gay enough or romanian enough is also fucking stupid.

 

Er, gays are still not accepted in Sports, I can only name a handful of gay Sportstars, and that aint cos they're all straight ...



 

The Fury said:
Seece said:

No I'm 100% gay, and my point is perfectly fine, attracted is another word for saying you find something beautiful.

I'm not denying your ability to define yourself as gay or questioning your sexuality as whole, you desire men this is clear and it's the same response I get from alot of people. I am however talking specifically about sexual orientation attractiveness. Not just using the word attractive as a different word for beautiful. I find some music beautiful, I don't think I'd ever say it is attractive.

Well then, I don't find women attractive, just beautiful (the pretty ones obviously). But I view them as objects when I see pictures (in terms of visual appearence, not people lol)

That said I don't think I've ever seen a woman in the flesh and though, beautiful ...



 

Seece said:

Er, gays are still not accepted in Sports, I can only name a handful of gay Sportstars, and that aint cos they're all straight ...


Do you mean if one wants to play softball in the us he better hide that he's gay? Or the other "manly" sports that they like? I really don't know how things stand with this, but I do admit that I don't know of any gay fotballer or tennis player for that matter. The women, however, fared better in that regard.



ithis said:

 

And what reason is that? I understand that in the past gay players in any sport were discriminated against, but I don't think that attitude is accepted anymore. I know this is another direction for the discussion, but is this fighting discrimination with discrimination? 

There's too many sarcastic comments and questions coming into mind right now, and I'm not one to have an educated opinion about how easy or difficult it is to be gay , but sports leagues based on sexual orientation is  stupid. Not being black enough, white enough, gay enough or romanian enough is also fucking stupid.

 

Excluding religious occupations, sports is probably the field where homophobia is most rampant. The clubs, teammates and fans would give any athlete who dared to come out a very hard time, and no club would want him afterwards (so while discrimination isn't really official, there's definately a lot of unofficial discrimination).

Also, LOL @ the bolded.



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