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blkfish92 said:
All political leaders lie in order to get into power.

That is not something I think anyone would dispute since all people lie. The issue also comes down to things like going against the will of the people that voted to have medical marijuana laws in place. I just put the word lie in the title because it draws attention especially to those who hate Obama or those who really love him. You got to title things in ways that people will notice.



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Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:


 

Your guys discussion inspires me to make more political threads. I think we have been lacking them since the realmafio left. Of course, mine will always have the liberal spin instead of his right bias.



I mean eh just go buy some gonja from the dude down the street.



Mad55 said:
I mean eh just go buy some gonja from the dude down the street.

That is illegal, the issue here is legal medicine. People that are sick need growers and dispenceries to provide their medicine just as pharmacies and drug manufacturers provide other medicine for sick people. What Obama is doing is cutting off easy excess to medicine. Do you expect a AIDS patient or a person that is in so much pain they can barely walk to grow their own marijuana. That is an outragous expectation to have on very ill people.



Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
That has always been the odd contradiction on medicinal marijuana, that states can do whatever they please but it won't stop the FBI from picking up anyone with pot, authorized on the state level or not

Disappointing on Obama's part, though, since the political will is actually more towards legalized marijuana now than when he made that campaign promise, which also makes it a vexing decision.

Re: Obama. Much of what he's backpedaled on does bother me as a proper leftist, though some of it I understand (namely Libya. He didn't "start" that war, Kasz, that war was ongoing, and it was a ideological bind for the west to sit back and let these people who professed a wish for democracy be slaughtered by an old foe of the West, and is a necessary commitment), but like hell i'm going to vote for a Republican, or a tone-neutral libertarian, since i'm an old school statist socialist with leanings of third-way fascism, and i find libertarianism to be just as poor a choice as a more state-oriented conservatism

No he entered the US in it.  Which was even more pointless.  At least Iraq and Afghanistan had douches in power that nobody was trying to get rid of.

Libya... we could of did NOTHING and just let europe take care of it for once. 

Besides, It's not like there aren't other people getting slaughtered by enemies of the west while we do nothing.

Not really. At least not in the context of an active civil war that is something that could be intervened in readily. I mean the Burmese have been playing cat-and-mouse with the Karin and the Kachin for decades, and the Laotians have an on-again-off-again thing against the Hmong, though neither of them are really our enemies (for balance of power purposes against the Vietnamese, we're even slightly friendly with Laos), but nobody else out there is just out-and-out waging full on war against a group of their people that is professing a desire for democracy (though i'm fully aware that the Libyan Rebels in this case probably don't want democracy, or at least don't want the kind of democracy we want)

I also agree that Europe should be pulling more of the weight in there, but i disagree in that the US should have a role either way

Sudan?  Ethnic cleansing has been going on there for a couple months at least.  (Again!)

Real actual ethnic cleansing and not.... possible expected ethnic cleansing.

I mean, don't forget the rebels on the day it's being recognized as getting their own country.

I had forgotten about South Sudan's imminent independence (which really doesn't seem to be happening). The media seems to have completely forgotten Darfur

But we seem to consider that one Africa's problem for whatever reason, maybe since Sudan never really did anything to us (aside from harboring bin Laden for a while), though we are intervening in Somalia to stop al-Shebab

The decision-making process isn't perfect, but i still maintain that it was an ideological bind, partly becuase the media was really paying attention to what was going on in Libya, and because Libya has had more relations with the West in general (poor relations, but still)



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Yea, he is known to lie.



chocoloco said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:


 

Your guys discussion inspires me to make more political threads. I think we have been lacking them since the realmafio left. Of course, mine will always have the liberal spin instead of his right bias.

I do wonder whatever happened to him. I mean, they have internet in New Zealand if he made good on his intentions of moving there, unless he found the site growing too hostile to his beliefs (which shouldn't be the case, since the major debaters in the politics section tend to lean either right or libertarian anyway)



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spurgeonryan said:
Other than the horrible problems in Mexico which is worse than the Iraq war, I could care less about the marijuana thing, and want the lawmakers to worry more about the country being a country thing.


Actually you should care quite a lot about the war on drugs, because it's doing several really bad things to the country:

- turning the US into the country with the most prisoners per capita ever. (for example, the US has more prisoners than China despite having a population 4 times smaller).

- wasting money on the war on drugs itself.

- wasting police time.



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Mr Khan said:
chocoloco said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:


 

Your guys discussion inspires me to make more political threads. I think we have been lacking them since the realmafio left. Of course, mine will always have the liberal spin instead of his right bias.

I do wonder whatever happened to him. I mean, they have internet in New Zealand if he made good on his intentions of moving there, unless he found the site growing too hostile to his beliefs (which shouldn't be the case, since the major debaters in the politics section tend to lean either right or libertarian anyway)

I know since I started always watching who was banned to know how to avoid getting anymore myself, plus it is funny stuff. He requested a permaban for whatever reason.



chocoloco said:
Mad55 said:
I mean eh just go buy some gonja from the dude down the street.

That is illegal, the issue here is legal medicine. People that are sick need growers and dispenceries to provide their medicine just as pharmacies and drug manufacturers provide other medicine for sick people. What Obama is doing is cutting off easy excess to medicine. Do you expect a AIDS patient or a person that is in so much pain they can barely walk to grow their own marijuana. That is an outragous expectation to have on very ill people.

Ahh I see what you mean, hmm well somebody's gotta do something about this though it seemed like it was supposed to be obama.