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After this week's sales it not hard to see the disproportionate software sales vs hardware sales for the PS3. It is a worrisome sight.



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Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?

I ask becuase you make it sound like wee can only have one or the other, but the fact is you can have both. I my self had lots of fun playing ratchet and clank on my friends PS3, much more fun than what I've had on my Wii and yes I will be getitng my self a PS3.



Leni said:
EXACTLTY.....

PSP vs Nds

graphics: PSP
gameplay: Nds

Ps3 vs Wii

graphics: Ps3
gameplay: Wii

so.......according to sales, people prefer gameplay over graphics....

conclusion: gameplay means FUN which means Nintendo success (and Sony's failure)

 Ummmm ... I dont want to be impolite .... but you know .... I dont know how to tell you .... I have fun with my PSP ... sorry ....



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Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.



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Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.


 The price to the consumer has fallen significantly over the past year, and as far as developers go the more experience they get with the system the less it will cost to develop. I see things heading further into that direction. Surely you don't believe that things stay static.

 



 

 

NO.

Sony haven`t released it`s BIG games yet.
PS3 sales are NORMAL according with price + cheaper competitors.

x360 premium with 2 games cost 349$.
Wii with 1 game cost 249$.
PS3 40GB witb 1 blu-ray movie cost 399$ STILL was able to outsell x360 in December.

But in general, till people will have more cheaper alternative, till there will be slow PS3 sales in USA compared to other consoles.

Of`course, when BIG games will be out, price and cheaper deals won`t be so attractive as PS3 games like KZ2, LBP, MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and etc.

It`s a matter of TIME only, before PS3 will start outselling x360 in USA.

Just for the records, PS3 is doing FINE in Europe.
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=PS2&reg3=Europe&weeks=80
PS2 launched after 6 month since Japan launch.
PS3 launched after 4 month since Japan launch.

After 16 week PS3 will be able to get some boost because of GTA4, GT5P, MGS4 and IF KZ2 + LBP and IF price cut or some bundle.

In Japan PS3 also need more Japanese games, like DMC4, ES, LP, AC6, MGS4, WKS, FFXIII and etc. When these games will be released, it will easy catch up PS2 sales.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.


Yes, but they still exist. I am sure many people will agree Uncharted, Ratchet, Bioshock, AC and CoD all had graphics and gameplay



dgm6780 said:


PS3 = hardcore gamers/traditional gamers
Wii = casual gamers/people that like mini games/people who are cheap

and Rol the wii doesnt have graphics atleast not up to current gen standards, 480i is LAST GEN.

But hey the wii does have some great mini games and my parents think it is really neat. Casual gamers are in heaven with that thing, you DONT have to be any good or even KNOW HOW TO PLAY to win at most of the best selling games.(Wii Play, Wii Sports, Mario & Sonic, Mario Party 8, Rayman 2) Now why would the games that require no brain power be such big sellers? because they are selling to a different demographic, thier intended demographic doesnt know how to play a video game. (kids & parents) So they took away the buttons and complex moves. They just made it so whoever shakes thier controller fastest or is just plain luckiest the winner. oh and they got mario (who was cool 15 years ago or still cool if you are under the age of 12)

Actually the wii does 480p not 480i. That's actually more than the majority of households can use anyways. I'm not sure what "standards" it fails to meet, since it's above the standards that currently exist in the marketplace. Perhaps you meant it's not up to your standards?

If all you do is "shake the controller fastest" then you obviously don't have the "required" "brain power" to play those games that you listed.  If you did then you'd understand that you will certainly not win by just shaking the controller fastest. 

 

The rest of your post is just as full of BS and misinformation but I'm too lazy so I'll just sum it up:

Sounds as if your mom beat you in Wii bowling and you're upset about it.



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Munkeh111 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.


Yes, but they still exist. I am sure many people will agree Uncharted, Ratchet, Bioshock, AC and CoD all had graphics and gameplay


Gameplay no better than any of the last generations with an analog stick. I Hope those graphics simply just "existing" is more than enough to compensate for the fact that they've handicapped the HD consoles in more ways than one. By your logic, if better graphics exist, and they do, and that's more than enough reason to demand them as the standard, why not just get a top of the line PC with even better gameplay (mouse & keyboard)? What? Too expensive you say? Well I guess you finally realized the dillemma with exceedingly expensive products vs more economic and appealing competitors.

Was one more generation really too much to wait for you to have those graphics? Did you really have to have them now at the cost of losing the lead to Nintendo? Was it worth alienating "Hardcore" genres even more?  

Well I guess we can find a positive in anything though. While Nintendo is comfortably making an astronomical profit this generation with economic graphics they'll be more than ready next gen to take advantage of all the money Sony and Microsoft lost this generation inbuilding up the Industry's development standards and infrastructure to this unrealistic standard of graphics they've touted, which by next gen will be more than economic if by no other means than the fact that Sony and MS made it so at their own expense and loss this generation.