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Shadowblind said:

Not sure what they are thinking . . . most boys today are sissy boys because lots of girls love extraordinarily feminin guys.

Every heard of Justin Beiber, anyone? Chicks dig that stuff.

This took place during the 70s. Also, the main purpose was to prevent the child from growing up to be a homosexual, as it was believed that effeminate boys  almost always grow up to be gay.



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sapphi_snake said:
elticker said:
seems a success to me, he stopped being gay, however the experiment had some errors, firstly not helping him adjust in school to have males as a friend without being attracted to them, secondly he should me monitored 24/7 without him knowing so that they can discover when he lies and study the lies he says and what they are about. thirdly is getting is hiring a sexy girl to get him to know how awesome it is to have sex with a girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man.
fourthly monitor him in his job secretly to study the effects the therapy have done to him when he was yound.
fifthly the spanking shouldn't have been so hard it should have been emotional pain instead of physical cause that is much more motivational to change than physical.

I hope that this is meant to be a sarcastic comment, but even in that case I see no humour in it.

What's absolutely clear is that the experiment was a total failure.

its not sarcastic.

I wrote above why the experiment failed however to say its a total failure is just denail as it stopped him from having gay relationships and changed him however the problem was in the trauma it was too much and he lied in the experiment and there was manipulating in the experiment which cause ineffiecency. also look at all my points which state how to improve it. I however for one am against physical pain as i believe it isn't as good as emotional me my self being hit by my father when i was young let me hate him however when i grew up i understand to an extent why he did it, however he gets angry at pretty much anything which makes it very hard to live with him since he just places the blame for his mistakes on other people. all i said is no sarcastic and is a simple analysis of how to improve the technique for it to be effective.



 

 

Shadowblind said:

Not sure what they are thinking . . . most boys today are sissy boys because lots of girls love extraordinarily feminin guys.

Every heard of Justin Beiber, anyone? Chicks dig that stuff.


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elticker said:
seems a success to me, he stopped being gay, however the experiment had some errors, firstly not helping him adjust in school to have males as a friend without being attracted to them, secondly he should me monitored 24/7 without him knowing so that they can discover when he lies and study the lies he says and what they are about. thirdly is getting is hiring a sexy girl to get him to know how awesome it is to have sex with a girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man.
fourthly monitor him in his job secretly to study the effects the therapy have done to him when he was yound.
fifthly the spanking shouldn't have been so hard it should have been emotional pain instead of physical cause that is much more motivational to change than physical.


But... You couldn't know if he was going to become gay anyway...

I know gay people that have acted bery manly sicne they were young, and I know people tha accted very "sissy" and are straight...

feminin guy =/= gay

Ther isn't a direct relation between those...



elticker said:

its not sarcastic.

I wrote above why the experiment failed however to say its a total failure is just denail as it stopped him from having gay relationships and changed him however the problem was in the trauma it was too much and he lied in the experiment and there was manipulating in the experiment which cause ineffiecency. also look at all my points which state how to improve it. I however for one am against physical pain as i believe it isn't as good as emotional me my self being hit by my father when i was young let me hate him however when i grew up i understand to an extent why he did it, however he gets angry at pretty much anything which makes it very hard to live with him since he just places the blame for his mistakes on other people. all i said is no sarcastic and is a simple analysis of how to improve the technique for it to be effective.

He did have gay relationships. The experiment didn't change him. Did you even read the article? All it did was make him hate himself for the rest of his life until he couldn't take it anymore. There was never anythign "wrong" with him, so there was never anything that needed "fixing". The whole experiment, from start to finish, was a process of psychological (and later physiological) torture that could only cause long-lasting damage. There's nothing to "improve" regardign this experiment (and it isn't the first of it's kind, as several such experiments have failed, this isn't the first one).

Also, you are a terrible human being. Just thought you should know.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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sapphi_snake said:
elticker said:

its not sarcastic.

I wrote above why the experiment failed however to say its a total failure is just denail as it stopped him from having gay relationships and changed him however the problem was in the trauma it was too much and he lied in the experiment and there was manipulating in the experiment which cause ineffiecency. also look at all my points which state how to improve it. I however for one am against physical pain as i believe it isn't as good as emotional me my self being hit by my father when i was young let me hate him however when i grew up i understand to an extent why he did it, however he gets angry at pretty much anything which makes it very hard to live with him since he just places the blame for his mistakes on other people. all i said is no sarcastic and is a simple analysis of how to improve the technique for it to be effective.

He did have gay relationships. The experiment didn't change him. Did you even read the article? All it did was make him hate himself for the rest of his life until he couldn't take it anymore. There was never anythign "wrong" with him, so there was never anything that needed "fixing". The whole experiment, from start to finish, was a process of psychological (and later physiological) torture that could only cause long-lasting damage. There's nothing to "improve" regardign this experiment (and it isn't the first of it's kind, as several such experiments have failed, this isn't the first one).

Also, you are a terrible human being. Just thought you should know.

spare me the all do no wrong attitude, I analyzed it from a scientific prespective, i watched the vids and read teh paragraphs the op posted. can you lead me to the gay relationships he had (post the paragraph which had it)?

secondly you are accusing me of being a teribly human being without even knowing my opinoin which invalidates the statement, my analysis was purely scientific.

My opinoin is that being gay is wrong as it is against what you are supposed to do in life which is advance the human race and have children for survival and i couldn't give a fuck if a person is gay or not (unless if he tries to start a relationship with me which would get him to the hospital asap) as him being gay creates less competition for women which i welcome. I am against treating gay people with this way just let them be, also i am a very strongly against changing gender without having a trans (female-male) as it would suck if i know that i slept with a female which was actually a male.

summary: i don't give a fuck about a person being gay or not, and i say that let gay people be.





 

 

Laurel Aitken said:
elticker said:
seems a success to me, he stopped being gay, however the experiment had some errors, firstly not helping him adjust in school to have males as a friend without being attracted to them, secondly he should me monitored 24/7 without him knowing so that they can discover when he lies and study the lies he says and what they are about. thirdly is getting is hiring a sexy girl to get him to know how awesome it is to have sex with a girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man.
fourthly monitor him in his job secretly to study the effects the therapy have done to him when he was yound.
fifthly the spanking shouldn't have been so hard it should have been emotional pain instead of physical cause that is much more motivational to change than physical.


But... You couldn't know if he was going to become gay anyway...

I know gay people that have acted bery manly sicne they were young, and I know people tha accted very "sissy" and are straight...

feminin guy =/= gay

Ther isn't a direct relation between those...

i don't know alot about what makes you gay but i am asssuming in this analysis that being gay means being very sissy.

i



 

 

elticker said:

spare me the all do no wrong attitude, I analyzed it from a scientific prespective, i watched the vids and read teh paragraphs the op posted. can you lead me to the gay relationships he had (post the paragraph which had it)?

secondly you are accusing me of being a teribly human being without even knowing my opinoin which invalidates the statement, my analysis was purely scientific.

My opinoin is that being gay is wrong as it is against what you are supposed to do in life which is advance the human race and have children for survival and i couldn't give a fuck if a person is gay or not (unless if he tries to start a relationship with me which would get him to the hospital asap) as him being gay creates less competition for women which i welcome. I am against treating gay people with this way just let them be, also i am a very strongly against changing gender without having a trans (female-male) as it would suck if i know that i slept with a female which was actually a male.

summary: i don't give a fuck about a person being gay or not, and i say that let gay people be.

You must know very little about science, since the methods described in the article have been widely disproven, the best proof being several experiments that showed that it's impossible to change sexual orientation, or sexual identity (these experiments failing to change such identities).

Here's the section that describes his gay relationshoips: http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/what-are-little-boys-made-of6

He described himself as being gay, he came out to his entire family, he had relationships with men (he married a woman for a while, but she was a lesbian, and they did it while they were in the army so they could move off-base; they never had a sexual relationship).I don't know what more you want.

That's a mere cultural myth. Also, the fact that such psychological torture would be necessary to "fix" the gay individual just goes to show you that being gay is the way that person NATURALLY is.

Also, physical violence against a gay guy if he asks you out (for example)? I really think the mods should ban you.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

elticker said:
Laurel Aitken said:
elticker said:
seems a success to me, he stopped being gay, however the experiment had some errors, firstly not helping him adjust in school to have males as a friend without being attracted to them, secondly he should me monitored 24/7 without him knowing so that they can discover when he lies and study the lies he says and what they are about. thirdly is getting is hiring a sexy girl to get him to know how awesome it is to have sex with a girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man.
fourthly monitor him in his job secretly to study the effects the therapy have done to him when he was yound.
fifthly the spanking shouldn't have been so hard it should have been emotional pain instead of physical cause that is much more motivational to change than physical.


But... You couldn't know if he was going to become gay anyway...

I know gay people that have acted bery manly sicne they were young, and I know people tha accted very "sissy" and are straight...

feminin guy =/= gay

Ther isn't a direct relation between those...

i don't know alot about what makes you gay but i am asssuming in this analysis that being gay means being very sissy.

i

If you had bothered to read the article you would've known that effeminacy in male children was seen as a sign that the child would grow up to be gay.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

"they eventually turned into beatings"

Hmm seems like restricting someones development in a violent way will make them hate their lives.

IMO these studies are terrible unscientific.