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VivaLaWiida said:
Uncircumsized penises look disgusting.

Just give it a tug, it will end up looking the same.



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elticker said:
kevin the wiiite said:
This topic is pointless. Its a religious issue, and the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men are minimal enough both medically and in terms of sexual pleasure that they aren't quantifiable. Plus, how is it possible to know that it doesn't feel as good circumcised if almost everyone has it done as a baby? It's not mutilation because it doesn't "degrade the appearance or function of any living body," as per wikipedia.

Female genital cutting is practiced in Middle Eastern and African countries, generally Muslim, as a way of exerting male dominance in a sexual relationship and is expressly designed to remove pleasure from sex. That is mutilation. Case closed.



this is bullshit and you are bullshit. sry i am angry cause you are saying something without proof and insulting me as a muslim. i know my religion and in no way is there a line in the qoran or sharia which says we are supposed or even hints to circumsing women, it's outlawed in islam. In islam everything is allowed except anal sex and we are supposed to pleasure women in sex so how the fuck does islam say that and then says circumsize your women. please make sure you post remotely accurate info.

There isn't a line in the Qoran that tells Muslims to blow infidels up either, but some Muslims still do it.

It's the same principle here, I have heard about this happening, they probably use their religion as an excuse to carry out female circumsicion.



Wonktonodi said:
acer67 said:

lol i think its a bit different reason read here its pretty easy to read summary http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=circumcision-and-aids


thanks that also got the term I had forgoten "microscopic abrasions"

Also forgot the term, "trials done in america and europe, and results showed no statistical significance"

Did you also know that child rape cures AIDs?

http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/april/virgin.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6076758.stm

I wouldn't trust anythign out of Africa. AIDS is transmitted through bodily fluids, not how close they are to immune cells.



theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
acer67 said:

lol i think its a bit different reason read here its pretty easy to read summary http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=circumcision-and-aids


thanks that also got the term I had forgoten "microscopic abrasions"

Also forgot the term, "trials done in america and europe, and results showed no statistical significance"

Did you also know that child rape cures AIDs?

http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/april/virgin.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6076758.stm

I wouldn't trust anythign out of Africa. AIDS is transmitted through bodily fluids, not how close they are to immune cells.

it's not claiming curing it's making someone less likely to get it By making the penis less likely to have nicro abrasions allowing other bodly fluids in.

Also last I checked the article in the post above is scientific american. They are doing it in Africa because that's where aids is worse. I don't see why you need to site bad sources.

I was bringing this up to show that there is some medical benefic to circumcision. It's a different argument on if it should be done on infants, I'm just pointing out there are benefits.

 

 



brendude13 said:
elticker said:
kevin the wiiite said:
This topic is pointless. Its a religious issue, and the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men are minimal enough both medically and in terms of sexual pleasure that they aren't quantifiable. Plus, how is it possible to know that it doesn't feel as good circumcised if almost everyone has it done as a baby? It's not mutilation because it doesn't "degrade the appearance or function of any living body," as per wikipedia.

Female genital cutting is practiced in Middle Eastern and African countries, generally Muslim, as a way of exerting male dominance in a sexual relationship and is expressly designed to remove pleasure from sex. That is mutilation. Case closed.



this is bullshit and you are bullshit. sry i am angry cause you are saying something without proof and insulting me as a muslim. i know my religion and in no way is there a line in the qoran or sharia which says we are supposed or even hints to circumsing women, it's outlawed in islam. In islam everything is allowed except anal sex and we are supposed to pleasure women in sex so how the fuck does islam say that and then says circumsize your women. please make sure you post remotely accurate info.

There isn't a line in the Qoran that tells Muslims to blow infidels up either, but some Muslims still do it.

It's the same principle here, I have heard about this happening, they probably use their religion as an excuse to carry out female circumsicion.

you do know that it is illegal to do female circumcision over here, and is also taboo in religion. actually come to think about it if anyone actaully did that there would be alot of media coverage and trail. You associate the circumcision being by some uneducated african proabably somewhere  in kenya or niroubi with him doing it for islam when they actually have tribal ritauls for that and has nothing to do with islam. You know thats like associating rape and child molestation with christains because of there priests.

It has nothing to do with islam and is a sin in islam to do that end of story. why they do it is nothing associated with islam.they can't use it even slightly as an excuse.

also the comment about middle eastern countries, i know that in any arab speaking country it is not allowed maybe afghanistan (i heard they do terrible stuff to women over there)?

also blowing up to kill innocent people(no armed) is a sin and the actual act is as you commit suicide in it which = automatic ticket to hell.

dam bin laden and his friends along with the american media fucked up how islam looks to an outsider



 

 

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kevin the wiiite said:
elticker said:
kevin the wiiite said:
This topic is pointless. Its a religious issue, and the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men are minimal enough both medically and in terms of sexual pleasure that they aren't quantifiable. Plus, how is it possible to know that it doesn't feel as good circumcised if almost everyone has it done as a baby? It's not mutilation because it doesn't "degrade the appearance or function of any living body," as per wikipedia.

Female genital cutting is practiced in Middle Eastern and African countries, generally Muslim, as a way of exerting male dominance in a sexual relationship and is expressly designed to remove pleasure from sex. That is mutilation. Case closed.



this is bullshit and you are bullshit. sry i am angry cause you are saying something without proof and insulting me as a muslim. i know my religion and in no way is there a line in the qoran or sharia which says we are supposed or even hints to circumsing women, it's outlawed in islam. In islam everything is allowed except anal sex and we are supposed to pleasure women in sex so how the fuck does islam say that and then says circumsize your women. please make sure you post remotely accurate info.

"FGC is predominantly practiced in Northeast Africa and parts of the Near East and Southeast Asia,[8][9] although it has also been reported to occur in individual tribes in South America and Australia"

Again, wikipedia.  I have nothing against Islam, its simply the geographic truth that the two are related.  Its the same things as saying male circumcision is almost always practiced in America by Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

And another quote: "Various works of fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) support the removal of the female prepuce."

Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting#Reasons_for_female_genital_cutting


I'm a Muslim living in the Middle East and I literally never heard of female circumcision.

Read this:-

"Al-Azhar Supreme Council of Islamic Research, the highest religious authority in Egypt, issued a statement saying FGM/C has no basis in core Islamic law or any of its partial provisions and that it is harmful and should not be practiced."

http://www.unicef.org/egypt/media_3875.html



Genital mutilation should never be allowed without the permission of the person being mutilated. Wait until the child grows up and then allow them to make the decision for themselves.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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I find it funny that the people that actually care about this are the people who have not had their dicks altered. The people like me do not even know what it is like to have foreskin. When you never had something you don't know what your missing and so no real harm is done.



I believe it is blasphemy and against the will of God to cut something off the body he has thought necessary when he created us in his image!



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Of course circumcision is necessary. We always have to fix after God's fuck ups.



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