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being gay a choice vs born that way.

It's a lifestyle choice 120 25.53%
 
Your born that way 250 53.19%
 
no opinion 36 7.66%
 
other---for anything I missed 62 13.19%
 
Total:468
Cheebee on 06 June 2011

I can't believe how many utterly y ignorant people there still are.



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TruckOSaurus on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Dahum said:
i'm 100% sure that every human being is born straight while the change happen in the teenage years where the hormones are being developed & what causes the change is a powerful dramatic effect such as the death of one of the parents or being turtured by someone........etc

the first twe humans were adam & eve which later fullfill there porpuse by producing babies and so on and on & this is what ppl got used to & its the Normal way & everybody knows even Gay ppl.

Wait... do you actually believe that there were just two humans to start with?

yes, well i guess it was just one, then eve was made, so for a little it was just one, but yes, basically 2

how many do you think?

I believe in evolution. You do realize that if they were only two humans, the human race wouldn't have lasted more a couple of years.



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osamanobama on 06 June 2011
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I



sad.man.loves.vgc on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I


yeah but these "beneficial" acts you are comparing to homosexuality harm others. Homosexuality is harmless.



osamanobama on 06 June 2011
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I


yeah but these "beneficial" acts you are comparing to homosexuality harm others. Homosexuality is harmless.

yes thats why aids, and other STD's are so prevelent in the homosexual community



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sad.man.loves.vgc on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I


yeah but these "beneficial" acts you are comparing to homosexuality harm others. Homosexuality is harmless.

yes thats why aids, and other STD's are so prevelent in the homosexual community

Lol. ok.



sapphi_snake on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I

I already explained to you why you're wrong. I see you're just gonna cover your ears (or in this case eyes) and go LA LA LA, so I won't bother repeating myself over and over. One thing's for sure: you are definately NOT better than me, nor are you better than gays, the opinion you presented here being proof of that.



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sapphi_snake on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:

yes thats why aids, and other STD's are so prevelent in the homosexual community

Lesbians are the least likely category of people to have an STD, especially AIDS. And no where are STDs and AIDS more prevalent than the heterosexual community in Africa.

STDs have no connection to sexual orientation, but I doubt you'd know that.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Chrizum on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I


yeah but these "beneficial" acts you are comparing to homosexuality harm others. Homosexuality is harmless.

yes thats why aids, and other STD's are so prevelent in the homosexual community

STDs are most prevelent in Central Africa. But I agree with you that being African is a sin.



DélioPT on 06 June 2011
osamanobama said:
sapphi_snake said:
osamanobama said:

so by that logic, its hate speech to call aldultry sin, murdering a sin, lying a sin becuase it is degrading to the perpatraitor. 

a sin is a sin, there is no way to sugar coat it

You're actually comparing homosexuality with murder? You must understand that homosexuality is only wrong in your religion "because God says so". Homosexuality isn't not intrinsically wrong (on the contrary, it's normal and beneficial for the homosexual). Since it's an inherent characteristic of a homosexual, calling it a "sin" IS hate speech (it's essentially like calling menstruation a sin, or having black skin a sin).

all the other sins i mentioned can be "beneficial" to the person committing the act.

i dont see how they are any different. the difference is that some sins are easier to get over than others. Murder will take in most cases will take a long time to come around, and realize that you need God, and can be forgiven, that can be awfully hard after such an evil act.

Same with aldultry.

lying in most cases can be relitively easy to get over and repent.

You do realize that Homosexuality isnt wrong, to you, is becuase you say so. 

and Homosexuality is mostly very hard to ask for forgiveness becuase the person is perpetually living in sin, until they turn away.

Just becuase you say it isnt, doesnt mean its not a sin, and a very grave one at that.

if calling it what it is, a sin, is hate speech, then so is calling other sins.

and if you think im trying to act high and mighty, and am  so how better than you, im not. I am no better than you or others, nor do i think God loves me any more, or less.

He loves you, and so do I


A very good post osamanobama!