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CGI-Quality said:

Yep.


I thought so! So at least maybe it won't suffer like GTA IV/ RDR did 



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dsister said:
LivingMetal said:

Really?  I didn't see anything about "severely interrupt" in the orginal source.  You mean the original article?

Yes, I read it from the original article, often times referred to as the original source.

LivingMetal said:


Didn't say "fills up" nor did it say "completely fills."  The thread says "barely" which means "almost."  But who cares?  You?

Fill: To supply or provide to the fullest extent

You are arguing semantics here, an argument where the dictionaries are on my side...

Just wondering, are you from Quebec? 

Edit: Didn't you just jump on me for quoting the title of the thread? And you are arguing against a quote from the OP... 

LivingMetal said:

So.  We're discussing more than just the title.  Where have you been?

Could you please quote it because I looked as well and couldn't find it.

You started it. You said "twist that!"  So I just answered truthfully.  If you cannot take it, that's your problem.  Point the finger at yourself first.



dsister said:
CGI-Quality said:

Yep.


I thought to so! So at least maybe it won't suffer like GTA IV/ RDR did 


I hope not, I traded in Crysis 2 to get this game. Of course only because trading a game towards a L.A. Noire preorder resulted in an additional 25% trade in credit. L.A. Noire will only cost me ~$20-25.



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CGI-Quality said:
StevenKreg said:

 

Which system is leading in pre orders?

:)

What significance does that have?

Well, it was a PS3 exclusive before and now it's a multiplatform game but the x360 version is leading in pre orders. This is significant because we can clearly see that exclusives aren't really a good thing if you want good sales.



dsister said:
cory.ok said:


i think what he means as there are constants on all the disks, as an example, the main characters textures and expressions must be saved on all disks because they'll be called upon from all disks.

another example would be an overworld map. to work in a video game (like final fantasy 7) the overworld map has to be compelete on all disks so each final fantasy 7 disk only had like 400mb of space (out of 700mb) to put actual content because the data had to be redundant across all the disks to ensure you could travel wherever you wanted at whatever point in the game

without being redundant across disks in this case you would either require no exploration to places you have previously been to (final fantasy 13) or disk swapping to access places that you had previously been to (mass effect 2).

That's what I thought he meant. And your second paragraph is wrong... All the download sizes I have seen of FF VII are well above 1 GB. Heck, I'm looking at a zipped file of it now on a ROM site and it comes up to about 1.3 GBs. 


i cant remmeber how many disks ff7 was (i think three so ill go with that) so between all the disks they ended up having a maximum capacity of about 2.1gb the zip folder may be compressing it down to what youre seeing it as, or there were other concerns that square had that lead to it being three disks, but thats all irrelevant. the example in the second paragraph stands as an example of where developers had to make data redundant across disks



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CGI-Quality said:
Hisiru said:
CGI-Quality said:
StevenKreg said:

 

Which system is leading in pre orders?

:)

What significance does that have?

Well, it was a PS3 exclusive before and now it's a multiplatform game but the x360 version is leading in pre orders. This is significant because we can clearly see that exclusives aren't really a good thing if you want good sales.

That's actually not what he was saying. He's already responded. :)

Now you have 2 reasons for why it's significant. :)



Wow, this thread is bad, people need to put a bit of research in before saying silly things. It took like seven pages before anyone could even figure out how much a 360 disk takes up, people keep forgetting the PS3 version is the lead platform and it's the only platform the game has been previewed on, some guy (obvious) likes to pretend that all PS3 games have mandatory installs and has glissfully forgetten that the PS3 is practically the only console with games that have no load times, Slimebeast was confused, people start bringing up pre-orders into a technical discussion thread, some guy accidently let out a fanboy quip by saying that as as long as it's a single player game, then it should be good on the PS3 (an obvious troll against the PSN incident, he made a similar remark in another thread) and not one post has been about the actual game.

OT: Game looks like some good shit! Maybe gonna pick it up on PS3, the disk issue has been a minor annoyance in the past (Mass Effect 2, Dead Space 2, Lost Odyseyy and a 20GB hard drive)and if it can be avoided, then it will be avoided. Still have a bad history with Rockstar, but since they didn't develop the game, the engine and pretty much have no hand in it's overall development, then I guess it should be perfectly fine and not a turd.



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CGI-Quality said:
Hisiru said:
CGI-Quality said:
Hisiru said:
CGI-Quality said:
StevenKreg said:

 

Which system is leading in pre orders?

:)

What significance does that have?

Well, it was a PS3 exclusive before and now it's a multiplatform game but the x360 version is leading in pre orders. This is significant because we can clearly see that exclusives aren't really a good thing if you want good sales.

That's actually not what he was saying. He's already responded. :)

Now you have 2 reasons for why it's significant. :)

The vast majority of the world never knew it was a PS3 exclusive (unlike FFXIII, DMC 4, or Tekken 6), and look at how that turned out. So that doesn't really support what you're saying.

Also, games like GTA & Red Dead did better on the 360 in the Americas, where it has the higher install base. Rockstar's games fair better on the 360 this gen. Claiming that you can't expect "good sales" from an exclusive is bollocks, as there are a great deal of exclusive franchises that crush your theory.

Basically, you just didn't get what he meant and your point has no significance (once again) to the conversation. :)

There is a big speculation in your first paragraph and I can't take it as an argument because you can't prove that, it's just what you think/believe. The fact is: It was a PS3 exclusive and now it's selling better on the x360.

Yes, there are great deal of exclusive franchises (like GTA & Microsoft) but it will never give you more money than "versions for all consoles" because your game will be able to be popular on all consoles and then you can release DLC, sequels and updates (like Super Street Fighter IV), you will have a larger userbase for your game/franchise and earn even more money. If you take the GTA & Microsoft case and do the math  you will realise that an exclusive deal won't give you more money than release on all platforms, you will see that 50 millions isn't enough.

Basically, he has an answer to your question and I have one too (which is different), but I don't know why you are acting this way. :)



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dsister said:
osamanobama said:

it said, they are making download content that didnt fit on the disk,

so i would assume that if disk space wasnt an issue, then that content would be on the retail disk of the game.

also when i read the article. my understanding of it, was progressing in the game with the main story mission, you will only need to swap disks twice, but their are side mission that arent directly story related, that you can play, but would have to switch disks to get back to them, if they were on the previous disk. the wording was a bit ambiguous, but that was my understanding


Like I said in my earlier post, three DVDs have more space than a single layer blu-ray. So if anything, content was cut because of the blu-ray, since the DVDs still had another half gigabyte to fill, they could of probably held a DLC mission or two more. 

And if you read the article it says you will only need to swap twice.

In fact, players will only need to swap discs twice at natural breaks between cases without interrupting the flow of the game

Does it even make a difference thar 3 DL DVD have more space than a single layer BD? that's why we hae DL BD's you know?