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Carl2291 said:

Okay so if it was nearly finished what, a Month ago... Then why are they releasing it NEXT Year?


That's what I would like to know...

For those saying that it's gonna be a launch title for Project Cafe...forget about it. SE would never release a game to boost hardware in a launching event. They release their games once there is a big user base and they can get enough profit of it selling their software.



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DavidValbu said:
Carl2291 said:

Okay so if it was nearly finished what, a Month ago... Then why are they releasing it NEXT Year?


That's what I would like to know...

For those saying that it's gonna be a launch title for Project Cafe...forget about it. SE would never release a game to boost hardware in a launching event. They release their games once there is a big user base and they can get enough profit of it selling their software.

again I think it might be a Pokemon B&W type of situation. Make cafe BC and release it near it's launch so people who buy cafe can play it with that and for those who don't with wii



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MrT-Tar said:
TomaTito said:
BenVTrigger said:

I personally hope they just made this game a launch title for Project Cafe instead of a Wii or 3DS title.

I'd love to see a Dragon Quest game in HD. I probably won't pick up a 3DS for a long while so it would suck for me if it ends up being on there.

I don't see them releasing it in HD since they already worked on it for the Wii, but they could release it also on the 3DS, maybe they are working on that now hence the disparity between date releases.


Yeah, I think DQXI will go to the 3DS and DQXII to the dominant home console next gen (likely Cafe).

The interesting thing however is the style of the future games, whether they are more like VIII or have a rather short single player story and a focus on multiplayer Co-op and customisation like IX.  I wouldn't be surprised if the home console versions (like X and I expect XII) go for the fomer approach and handhelds (XI in my example) to go for the latter.

Yuji Horii has said DQX is going to be more like DQVIII, with a set storyline and character paths (aka no character creation like in DQIII and IX).  Frankly, I think that's a good thing.  DQ is great because its one of the few JRPGs that focuses almost exclusively on gameplay and exploration.  But I still think the best games in the series had set character classes and story (DQIV, V and VIII).

DavidValbu said:
Carl2291 said:

Okay so if it was nearly finished what, a Month ago... Then why are they releasing it NEXT Year?


That's what I would like to know...

For those saying that it's gonna be a launch title for Project Cafe...forget about it. SE would never release a game to boost hardware in a launching event. They release their games once there is a big user base and they can get enough profit of it selling their software.

He said it was nearing completion.  That's nowhere near finished.  They still need to do testing, marketing and production of the finished product.

Rememeber, both FFXIII and DQIX were said to be 'nearly finished' in 2008.  And they released much later than that.



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http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/01/sugiyama_on_dqx/

Just a little more clarification to what Sugiyama said.  Again, its pretty much the same thing he said about DQIX.  Just not a set date.



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/01/sugiyama_on_dqx/

Just a little more clarification to what Sugiyama said.  Again, its pretty much the same thing he said about DQIX.  Just not a set date.


Okay, shooting for finishing next year. I hope they succeed.



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A203D said:

Personally i would say those review scores are about right. i really enjoyed DQ8, it was an excellent game - and the voice acting for a JRPG was exlemplary....

however i think to get better sales DQ10 will have to improve the battle system. frankly, i think the system is okay, but far too repititive and generic for my taste. the only part of the game that didnt deliever imo.

so i think the sales of the next DQ game will depend on how good the battle system is, as well as advertising and things like that. because its likely a lot of the JRPG fans who play FF know about DQ, but decide not to get it because they think its for kids - a better battle system would change that imo.

if they changed anything too major about the battle system, they would just get an outrage from the Japanese Fans.

originally Dragon Quest IX was going to be an Action-Rpg if memory serves me right, but the Japanese fans were furious and demanded it be changed back to traditional.

Also about it being kiddy??? wtf, if anything Final Fantasy has gotten the kiddy battle system now, at least in my opinion.

Dragon Quest has an unforgiving battle system, and many battles are very easy to lose if you are not well prepared, and i don't know about you, but most kids i know don't have the attention span to dedicate to a game like Dragon Quest.

Dragon Quest might have a more child friendly art style because that part of the game is made by Akira Toriyama of Dragon Ball Fame, but the rest of the game is very much aimed at adults or mature people, be it puns or jokes or simply the story.

 

all of the above is my own opinions and should not be regarded as facts.



Kemsus said:
 

if they changed anything too major about the battle system, they would just get an outrage from the Japanese Fans.

originally Dragon Quest IX was going to be an Action-Rpg if memory serves me right, but the Japanese fans were furious and demanded it be changed back to traditional.

Also about it being kiddy??? wtf, if anything Final Fantasy has gotten the kiddy battle system now, at least in my opinion.

Dragon Quest has an unforgiving battle system, and many battles are very easy to lose if you are not well prepared, and i don't know about you, but most kids i know don't have the attention span to dedicate to a game like Dragon Quest.

Dragon Quest might have a more child friendly art style because that part of the game is made by Akira Toriyama of Dragon Ball Fame, but the rest of the game is very much aimed at adults or mature people, be it puns or jokes or simply the story.

 

all of the above is my own opinions and should not be regarded as facts.

Yeah i was reffering to the art style, which is why the western auidence who are unaware of DQ think the games are aimed at children, of course they are not. but i'm sure a lot of kids are interested in it as well. i have no problem with the art style since theres a lot more depth to the game once you've played it.

i just dont like the battle system - too repititive. not exciting enough for me. although its okay, i dont condemn it, i think for the series to be popular in the west the battle system has to become more accessible. since a lot of western gamers wont level grind, which is what i had to do. 

simplicity does have its merits and perhaps if the difficulty was changable (easy, medium, hard) then the the gameplay could be made more accessible for the west!



Kenryoku_Maxis said:

2) All the of the Wii games that got an avg score of 9.0 or higher came out in the first 2 years (except Mario Galaxy 2).  The avg scores for Wii games, even popular ones deemed good by the general public like DCKR or Kirby's Epic Yarn, got an acg score under 9.0.  I'm not saying the Wii is a masterpiece and all its games deserve over a 9.0.  However, its obious that reviewers downscore their games because of a bias.  Mostly based on it having less graphical capabilities than the HD Consoles.  Some sites like IGN and GameTrailers have even stated this plainly in ther reviews.  I for one don't think Wii games should be compared to GTAIV or Assassins Creed.

You mean like AC Brotherhood that scored a whopping 2 points (3 for the PS3 version) better than Kirby and Donkey Kong on Metacritic?  Yup, some awful bias there.  Actually the user scores put both Kirby and DK lower than the Critic score.  Guess that means the general public actually deemed them worse than the biased reviewers.  (just a note, I don't put any stock in user scores personally)



Kenryoku_Maxis said:

2) All the of the Wii games that got an avg score of 9.0 or higher came out in the first 2 years (except Mario Galaxy 2).  The avg scores for Wii games, even popular ones deemed good by the general public like DCKR or Kirby's Epic Yarn, got an acg score under 9.0.  I'm not saying the Wii is a masterpiece and all its games deserve over a 9.0.  However, its obious that reviewers downscore their games because of a bias.  Mostly based on it having less graphical capabilities than the HD Consoles.  Some sites like IGN and GameTrailers have even stated this plainly in ther reviews.  I for one don't think Wii games should be compared to GTAIV or Assassins Creed.

I just saw this...

Can I ask, why don't you think Wii games should be compared to games from the HD consoles? If Nintendo happily enough compare sales of the Wii to the PS3 or 360, or sales of Wii games to them, then why shouldn't games also be compared in reviews?



                            

A203D said:
Kemsus said:
 

if they changed anything too major about the battle system, they would just get an outrage from the Japanese Fans.

originally Dragon Quest IX was going to be an Action-Rpg if memory serves me right, but the Japanese fans were furious and demanded it be changed back to traditional.

Also about it being kiddy??? wtf, if anything Final Fantasy has gotten the kiddy battle system now, at least in my opinion.

Dragon Quest has an unforgiving battle system, and many battles are very easy to lose if you are not well prepared, and i don't know about you, but most kids i know don't have the attention span to dedicate to a game like Dragon Quest.

Dragon Quest might have a more child friendly art style because that part of the game is made by Akira Toriyama of Dragon Ball Fame, but the rest of the game is very much aimed at adults or mature people, be it puns or jokes or simply the story.

 

all of the above is my own opinions and should not be regarded as facts.

Yeah i was reffering to the art style, which is why the western auidence who are unaware of DQ think the games are aimed at children, of course they are not. but i'm sure a lot of kids are interested in it as well. i have no problem with the art style since theres a lot more depth to the game once you've played it.

i just dont like the battle system - too repititive. not exciting enough for me. although its okay, i dont condemn it, i think for the series to be popular in the west the battle system has to become more accessible. since a lot of western gamers wont level grind, which is what i had to do. 

simplicity does have its merits and perhaps if the difficulty was changable (easy, medium, hard) then the the gameplay could be made more accessible for the west!

In all honesty, if SE had marketed the games correctly, Akira Toriyama's art style would be a plus and not a minus.  I mean, all the Dragon Ball Tenkaichi Budokai games sold over a million in America.  And of course, I don't think I need to tell you how successful Chrono Trigger was.

All SE needed to do was make a commercial simply saying 'From the creators of Dragon Ball and Chrono Trigger'.  Bam, game sells an extra 500,000 on name recognition alone.  But no, SE is stupid and thinks only Final Fantasy can sell any of their games.

Also, like Kemsus said, many people in the west who actually played DQ have whined that its too hard.  Specifically I can recall complaints about Dormageus in DQVIII or Bjorn in Dragon Quest V.  Nearly every DQ game has that one 'mid game boss' that stomps you the first time and you realize the whole game can't just be played with buffs and heals.  And many MANY people quit the game at those points.

Yakuzaice said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:

2) All the of the Wii games that got an avg score of 9.0 or higher came out in the first 2 years (except Mario Galaxy 2).  The avg scores for Wii games, even popular ones deemed good by the general public like DCKR or Kirby's Epic Yarn, got an acg score under 9.0.  I'm not saying the Wii is a masterpiece and all its games deserve over a 9.0.  However, its obious that reviewers downscore their games because of a bias.  Mostly based on it having less graphical capabilities than the HD Consoles.  Some sites like IGN and GameTrailers have even stated this plainly in ther reviews.  I for one don't think Wii games should be compared to GTAIV or Assassins Creed.

You mean like AC Brotherhood that scored a whopping 2 points (3 for the PS3 version) better than Kirby and Donkey Kong on Metacritic?  Yup, some awful bias there.  Actually the user scores put both Kirby and DK lower than the Critic score.  Guess that means the general public actually deemed them worse than the biased reviewers.  (just a note, I don't put any stock in user scores personally)

Hence why I don't really consider Metacritic to be an accurate source for review scores.  Not that review scores should be followed in the first place, which was my point.  But on avg, Metacritic scores are lower than the 'avg' because of the reviewers who give games random 3.0 when everyone else givers it a 8.5-9.0.  And like you said, the user scores which are even worse (like people giving the game a 1.0 just to make the score go down).

My views were just based on what I saw on the three 'major' review sites.  Namely IGN, Gamespot and GameTrailers.  And like I said, they've even flat out said they downscore games because they compare them to the HD games.

As for why I think they shouldn't.  That's just personal opinion.  I think each systems games should be compared to ONLY the games on that system.  I find it pretty stupid that all Wii games have to be compared to this magic level that HD games are suppose to attain, just because they came out at the same time.  Especailly since its well noted that Wii is not targeting that audience nor does it have as good of graphics.  Its like comparing all PS2 games to Crysis on PC.  Oh, but amazingly enough, back in the PS2 days, the PS2 had the highest amount of games over 9.0.  Seems they didn't care about graphics back then....

And what will happen once the Cafe comes out?  What if it has better graphics than the PS3?  Will they suddenly start downscoring the 360/PS3 games a half a point simply because a new benchmark for graphics had been attained?  I highly doubt it.  If anything, the Cafe will be put under even more scrutiny for reviews, just like the GC and Wii was.



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