I am one of them. Got a PS3 approx a year later I got a 360(2007, 18 months after release), and I enjoy the PS3 more. The controller issues I had with the PS3 all changed into preferences later on as I slowly started to appreciate the d-pad and the rumble on the dualshock. The rumble especially is friggin amazing and better than the 360 rumble by a margin because of the varying degree of rumbles in games like Heavy Rain and MGS4 where the rumble will be so subtle in some areas it won't feel like a rumble. When solid snake moves from a higher ground to the lower ground for example, the soft thud is a lot well simulated on the DS3 than the xbox controller(I know MGS4 is not on 360 but I have yet to experience anything similar in other games). At first I used to think it was because of battery issues, the 360 unlike the DS3 automatically reduces the rumble when the battery is low but now I use wired controller on the 360 all the time and the rumble is still not as good.

But I agree that the trigger things on the PS3 is bad, but there's a workaround by using the R1 and L1 buttons instead. Its not perfect, but it works unlike the D-pad which in games like gears of war really is a problem.

I like the XMB more because of customization.

The avatar things I try to ignore every time I login.

That is pretty much it. There are a lot of advantages for me as a PS3 user (upgrade HDDs without paying $150, USB headset compatibility, bluetooth compatibility, Keyboard compatibilty, mouse compatibilty, free online gaming, saving of images on HDD through USB drive for future use) that I really like and I use as well.

It depends on what kind of gamer you are really. I play mostly online games, and in this front as you said, the 360 does it best. So for everyone interested in having the most robust experience online should really invest on a 360.

And the 360 has a lot of quality exclusives (some of them are on PC as well, but people still consider exclusive in terms of consoles), its just that they haven't been releasing much recently, probably because they are focussing on Kinect.

Also a lot of things you complained about are actually things that I like, the 360's achievement system/noise, 360 controller (I dont understand why people people complain about either controllers, I can use both 360 and dualshock without any problems, but I think I prefer the 360 for shooters mainly), the dashboard which I think is very coherent, etc. Yes I do understand some of your gripes as well such as the d-pad which is horrible if you are playing fighting games but I can mostly get over whatever small problems the 360 has for an overall great experience.

I got my ps3 about a year later after my xbox and I guess Im in the minority here but I prefer my 360.I dont like the ps3 controller too much because it feels too fragile. PSN is too cluttered and hard to find things.....I hate the fact the demos take far too damn long to download and that when you buy a new game the damn console has to save and load it , While the 360 just plays them right off the bat. PS3 does have its plus......The Blu-ray is  fantastic and the exclusive games are top notch. Blu-Ray and Exclusives is pretty much what I use my ps3 strictly for, my 360 handles everything else!

Yeah I know when I read this as I have a similar feeling about my PS3.  I actually don't use it for anything other than Uncharted and Blurays, it does appear marginally better on compatability for xvids but there isn't a huge difference in my experience.  The streaming software I was referring to allows you to use your PC to convert on the fly so you can watch mkv's for example without having to convert to suitable formats.  It's not for everybody but I just mentioned it as it's handy for the PS3 too.

Also, you kind of get used to the barren periods at the start of the year as a 360 owner and then from September onwards you get bombarded and spoiled for choice.  This xmas might be very expensive given the number of Kinect titles (Dance Central 2 is a given obviously) and of course Gears 3.  I suspect you might yet be tempted by Forza 4 too when we see what they've done with both the physics and graphics engines.

Hmmm ok to each his own.  I guess you're just giving opinions but it just seems that you're not giving the 360 enough of a fair shake and most of your descriptions seem rather harsh and mocking in nature.  

Either way, I don't intend any offense to you... I respect your opinion...it's just the verbage causes me to raise an eyebrow.  ;)

Interesting read, However i feel the other way around. I really don't understand the controller issue with  your lady though. I'm 5'5" and have smaller hands, maybe not as small as hers but find the controller way more relaxing but I think it comes down to what your used to.

Just my one sided qvasi comparative and offtopic unspellchecked comment on the rumbleless controller of the PS3:

I like the fact that it is small and light , even though I have big hands. I hold it loosely, easily shifting it around to get to the different buttons and such. I do have problems with some button combinations, I think KZ2 comes to mind. If the xbox360 controller would fare better in those situations, then it would get a pluss. The handles of the xbox controller fit better in your palm yes, but I don't grip the controller tightly, so that's less of a factor for the PS3 controller.

It does not feel more fragile at all, it is just lighter. I twisted an xbox360 controller once to get a feel for the robustness, and, compensatingfor my bias through logic, I would say that they are the same.

The convex sticks are logical, offering the same contact caracteristics no matter how you roll your finger around on it. Sticking your thumbs into dips, thus having to bend the thumb sounds pretty unconfortable to me. I wouldn't do that.

I like to slide my fingers off the R2 and L2 triggers. Requires less effrot than lifting or letting go I think.

I like the fact that it is cromatically coherent.

I like simetry.

That's because of the "IMO".  Depending on tastes its relatively easy to prefer the PS3 if you're more drawn to Uncharted vs Gears, or GT5 vs Forza.

Right now I suspect the PS3 probably has more exclusives numerically than 360 since all the timed stuff has elapsed.  Certainly when I look at potential exclusives coming this year for both systems I'm interested in buying (having both PS3 and 360) the PS3 list is larger at this time.

I'd say it's easy to see it either way depending on gaming preferences - particularly given 90% or more of the consoles libraries are identical - and that your flat out disbelief and clear preference for the 360 is more about you than some real world 360 library advantage.

Or the other 50 360 exclusives that aren't on the PS3, or the 150 XBLA exclusives that aren't on PS3.

That was my point. If you have been a person thats owned a 360 for any length of time, you'll see what the 360 offered over the entire history and realize there is a kingly sum of exclusives over the past 6 years that never made it to PS3. Of course, it does come to preference, but your preference can be inherantly skewed depending on how long you've owned a console, as the exclusivity list is dwindling for the 360, whereas a veteran owner knows that the list of exclusives has been incredible over the past 6 years.

Of my library, the following games I own are 360 exclusives (these are just the ones I own, FYI):

• Blue Dragon
• Lost Odyssey
• Tales of Vesperia (US)
• Tropico 3
• Crackdown
• EDF2017
• Dead Rising
• Deadly Premonition (US)
• Mass Effect
• Condemned 1 2
• Culdcept Saga
• Infinite Undiscovery 
• Two Worlds (obviously horrible, but I guess worth mentioning)
• Ridge Racer 6

For what its worth, they are all 3rd party exclusives (with BD/LO being debatable). These titles make up about 1/3rd or more of my entire X360 collection, which is pretty nice. I didn't include absolute 1st party titles like Forza 2. And of course, this is my list of owned titles, not ones I've played, as that list would expand 3 or 4 fold.

That is why I say its crazy to argue the PS3/360 exclusivity debate without having a deep understanding of the 360 library. Its had a bit more exclusives over the years, which is something a recent 360 owner wouldn't know about. Furthermore, my list doesn't include XBLA titles, as that list is nearly 100% exclusive with only Castle Crashers and SOTN (I think) being multi-plat.

I've had a 360 for over 7 months and access to one for two years.  I know its library.  I can easily see how someone would prefer it.  I can also easily see how someone would prefer PS3.

Each has plenty of exclusives and, last 18 months or so, PS3 arguable more retail exclusives, while 360 maintains a larger download selection.

Most titles cancel out depending on preferences, 360 has LO but others might prefer VC on PS3.  360 has indie titles and the like PS3 has minis, 360 has Shadow Complex, Limbo, etc. PS3 has Flower, Wipehout HD, Pixel Junk Shooter, etc.

Yes, over 6 years the 360 has lots of desirable exclusives, but now, after 4 to 5 years depending on region so does the PS3, games like God of War, inFamous, Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet, Flow, Wipeout, Superstardust, Pixel Junk Games, Folklore, Resistance, Killzone and so on.

Today, it's impossible to say one has clear superiority.  Early on the 360 did for sure.  But those days are gone.  Now its down to taste in exclusives or other features.  The core library of each is made up of identical multi-platform titles, from CoD, AC, Bioshock, Battlefied titles and of course many, many more... to online games like DeathSpank, Castle Crashers, etc.

MS did work hard early in the 360 life to differentiate, with timed exclusives, or paid for development, but that time really has passed and now each boasts and equally strong library.  Even when I look at Kinect/Move I see more or less a draw.  Kinect has DC, Adventures and Sports as good titles, then it gets iffy down to a poor fighting title.  Move has SC, Singstar, Tumble and then it gets iffy down to a poor fighting title (in general critical view, I know some folks love those fighting titles).

Therefore I stick to what I say - it is now impossible to argue either is automatically the better choice.  It depends on preference for game types and which exclusives you prefer.

I do believe that currently, in terms of what's visible, PS3 is going to have more exclusives this year than 360, although that might change - and I believe it's the fact that right now the PS3 looks to be getting more exclusives that drove Happinesses response: i.e. both have big libraries but PS3 seems to be getting more games right now hence he'd recommend that if he had to make a choice.

I say look to the exclusives that interest you and chose there, plus consider how much online matters and whether you need the additional functionality of Live to meet your needs.