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Chevinator123 on 28 April 2011
ultraslick said:

There is alot of guessing and pure speculation here which people will not even take into consideration for a valid argument at this time, and they are right not to.

But one thing is certain; even if the N6 is just an HD wii, it is still starting the next generation of consoles. Which means the 720 will not have the one true advantage which it had this gen.. the early headstart. That is where the OP is accurate.

But Microsoft knows what they are doing. They will go one of 2 directions with the nextbox. They will either become the leading system for casuals through Kinect 2.0 or whatever, or they will buy certain developers. One or two huge purchases need to be made to create unique exclusives for Microsoft next gen.

If this is the case one giant purchase of Activision or EA would really be something which would solidify Microsofts first party lineup alongside the competition.


MS would have to cough up billion(s) to buy either one of those, Activion makes 1bil each year just from COD and god knows how much from Blizzard same with EA



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epicberserk on 28 April 2011
Chevinator123 said:
ultraslick said:

There is alot of guessing and pure speculation here which people will not even take into consideration for a valid argument at this time, and they are right not to.

But one thing is certain; even if the N6 is just an HD wii, it is still starting the next generation of consoles. Which means the 720 will not have the one true advantage which it had this gen.. the early headstart. That is where the OP is accurate.

But Microsoft knows what they are doing. They will go one of 2 directions with the nextbox. They will either become the leading system for casuals through Kinect 2.0 or whatever, or they will buy certain developers. One or two huge purchases need to be made to create unique exclusives for Microsoft next gen.

If this is the case one giant purchase of Activision or EA would really be something which would solidify Microsofts first party lineup alongside the competition.


MS would have to cough up billion(s) to buy either one of those, Activion makes 1bil each year just from COD and god knows how much from Blizzard same with EA

yea ea and activion is way too much for microsoft to buy out but if they did i would say they would go with activision because of call of duty and microsoft better pals with bobby kotick then ea at times



UltimateUnknown on 28 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
UltimateUnknown said:

The Wii came was released second this generation and has annihilated both PS3 and 360. No one probably predicted that after Gamecube's mediocre to lackluster performance.

I for one actually think that MS have a great opportunity in terms of Kinect. It has had a great reception (especially by the casuals), so if MS improve on the technology and have it built in for the nextbox, they could have a huge success in their hands. By the time the nextbox releases, the casuals will probably have had enough with their Wiis, and since Nintendo seem to be going for the hardcore with their current console, I could see MS capturing the casual market that Nintendo currently has, with some good marketing and R&D (which they are good at). Plus on top of that MS will have the support from most hardcore 360 owners from this gen and 3rd parties as well.

So overall, they could very well succeed, but this is all only speculation.

MS won't have the third party support though, it will be spilt between ps3 (high userbase) and wii 2 (first next gen console) and again if they can't get kinect to work right with anything resembling a real game I don't think people will bite, Kinect has been going down in sales for a long time, and they still need a killer ap I don't think dance central is gonna sell a 400 console to alot of people 

The only reason Kinect hasn't been selling is because there has been no software for it for the past few months. But if you take a look at this week's sales, you will see that as soon as Micheal Jackson's experience was released, Kinect sales peaked again and placed in the top 10 which indicates that Kinect will have demand as long as MS can accomodate. And I can almost guarantee that come this E3, MS will bring down a s**tload of info about more hardcore/casual kinect titles. MS knows the potential of kinect and will definitely capitalise on it both this gen, and probably next gen too by upgrading the hardware. Kinect this gen was more of an experiment than anything, and the experiment was a success.

As for 3rd party, do you really think 3rd parties like Activision and EA will just all of a sudden stop making games for a console that has a 50 million userbase? Even if the PS3 has 10 million more users than the 360 by the end of this gen, they will still make games for both platforms and the newly released Wii 2, because that will give them the maximum profit. And profit is what they are after.



 

NiKKoM on 28 April 2011

and that's why I keep saying that we should up the number of posts before someone can make thread...



 

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Mendicate Bias on 28 April 2011
Squilliam said:

This is an intelligence test. Don't mess it up guys.

Pshhh are you kidding me this guy is a genius

Someone call MS and tell them to fire all those overpaid MIT graduates that were able to take make the xbox one of the most successful consoles of all time by its second generation in a market with two established heavy weights.

Clearly this guy with his superior analytical skills and complete mastery of the english language has seen the future and theres just no way they can be a success. Too bad I had high hopes for the nextbox.



                                           

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Mendicate Bias on 28 April 2011
NiKKoM said:

and that's why I keep saying that we should up the number of posts before someone can make thread...

Or maybe implement a mandatory IQ test before posting privileges are given

Just saying



                                           

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starcraft on 28 April 2011
imaprettyhotguy said:
ultraslick said:

There is alot of guessing and pure speculation here which people will not even take into consideration for a valid argument at this time, and they are right not to.

But one thing is certain; even if the N6 is just an HD wii, it is still starting the next generation of consoles. Which means the 720 will not have the one true advantage which it had this gen.. the early headstart. That is where the OP is accurate.

But Microsoft knows what they are doing. They will go one of 2 directions with the nextbox. They will either become the leading system for casuals through Kinect 2.0 or whatever, or they will buy certain developers. One or two huge purchases need to be made to create unique exclusives for Microsoft next gen.

If this is the case one giant purchase of Activision or EA would really be something which would solidify Microsofts first party lineup alongside the competition.

Neither EA and Activision are up for sale and a hostile takeover could end up with the result being another rare incident, and MS clearly doesn't know what they are doing right now, they are letting all their talented devs go, why do people say MS knows what they are doing? Maybe earlier this gen but they are going in the entirely wrong direction, kinect won't last long if they can't even manage to get a character to walk straight down a hallway in a resonable way for the person so I don't see them winning the causual maket, and if they are going to up their 1st party by launch they need to start buying devs soon

When people say MS know what they're doing, what they mean is that one of the most successful companies in history isn't letting one of their major divisions move forward without a gameplan.  Microsoft haven't told us what their plan is, but rest-assured that they have one.



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Squilliam on 28 April 2011
Mendicate Bias said:
Squilliam said:

This is an intelligence test. Don't mess it up guys.

Pshhh are you kidding me this guy is a genius

Yeah he is pretty much. He's going to play a few people, why can't anyone practice self-restraint?



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Zlejedi on 28 April 2011
starcraft said:

We've yet to see how far Kinect can take MS, to this point it has been a resounding success.


If by resounding success you mean outselling PS3 by 20k in your strongest territory ,barely keeping above Wii in EMEA and being locked in a fascinating duel against PS2 in Japan then yes kinext is outstanding success.



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Mendicate Bias on 28 April 2011
Squilliam said:
Mendicate Bias said:
Squilliam said:

This is an intelligence test. Don't mess it up guys.

Pshhh are you kidding me this guy is a genius

Yeah he is pretty much. He's going to play a few people, why can't anyone practice self-restraint?

Recently just coming onto this website is a practice in self-restraint



                                           

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