lol, you didn't need to change your post, i was just saying.

But yeah, I agree with you, it will get hard for Sony to sell PS3's when the next Nintendo console offer's HD games with even greater graphics. Even harder if Ninty adds a Blu-Ray drive and a better motion control than Move, which basically destroys every aspect where the PS3 trumped the Wii.

I'm not so sure how much this affects MS, though. Sure, they have the same problems as Sony with NES6 offering better system specs, but with Kinect they have a solid market on the casuals. Ninty's control schemes are always accepted more by the masses, and maybe they will even influence Kinect's sales a bit, but Kinect will continue to sell some decent amounts.

Sony are now after avoiding bankrupt(console department)y. The ps3 was a disaster and they won't be repeating that again, but maybe they will, NGP is a step in the wrong direction yet again.

Microsoft seems to have learned the same lesson. THis is why their next systems aren't releasing until 2013-2014, and why nintendo can afford to jump to the next console gen much sooner than them. They overstepped their comfort zone, now they will lag behind.

In just a few months time nintendo will have the most powerful home console and microsoft/sony will be riding the dying wave of their 2005-2006 hardware for up to 2 years after. How humiliating.

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People wont give  a crap about the next nintendo console unless it is at least twice as powerfull as ps3 and has COD as a launch title. Also if the launch title games do not look as good as ps3 exclusives, people will think....well a ps3 is around 200 dollars cheaper, why would I buy the stream if the ps3 has the same graphics? Oh and the headstart will give the stream a  massive boost in sales but when the next iteration of xbox/PS launch a year or so after with better graphics people will say bye bye to the stream.  

But there's only one console dying right now. 

I expect Sony and MS to announce their next consoles very soon. 

I think we agree. I just see Kinects unique features as more of a headache for MS than an opportunity. Nintendo didn't botch any of it core games with motion. Zelda, Mario Kart, even 2D Mario forced MC with no ill effect. I don't think MS can do the same to Gears, Fable, Forza and Halo and I don't see 3rd parties risking their IPs either. Does MS want Kinect spinoffs like the Wii got? Dead Space Kinectration?

MS appears invested in Kinect far more than Sony's 'patch Move controls' approach and that's where I see MS' problem. If they are developing core (read expensive) Kinect games from the ground up then they have less resources for non-Kinect games, moneyhatting exclusives/DLC, timed or otherwise. It's not even the $ that's so important, it's more development time and the ability to quickly change direction.

Interesting times. MS or Sony are going to have to jump before 2014, Nintendo will be announcing NES 7 in 2016. 

In many respects Kinect is closer to a touch screen than it is to the Wiimote, do you get what I mean? The major difference really is that Kinect acts as if the TV is the touch screen whereas the NES 6 has it's own smaller touch screen. They both have similarities and advantages and disadvantages. I cannot really say that one is better than the other at everything only that at this point they both have their place and the NES 6 one is probably the most practical, although it remains to be seen what Microsoft manages to do with Kinect in the mean time to prove it's worth as an alternative control scheme. I believe that both could even co-exist as interfaces to computers/consoles although you probably wouldn't want both at the same time due to overlap.

Im not sure how to comment on games/market conditions as it's all speculative at this time for both interfaces.

For the two generations we have had this century all consoles launched in roughly one year of each other.

This break away by Nintendo can be pure genius or epic fail. We will all know in a few years but I give them credit for such a bold (some may say obvious but I disagree) move.

The way I see it if Nintendo can have the most powerful up-to-date and innovative console on the market for a couple years or more and can make good hay while the sun shines.

When the other two then launch their new console Nintendo then take a back seat while the two newer more powerful consoles fight it out before it starts all over again.

Seperating their launch by such a massive time gap from the others mean people will only focus on the Nintendo console with Sony's and MS's at least a couple years away.

The one thing MS and Sony mustn't do is rush to react, because that is when shit can fall apart. Yes you must react to what is going on around you but never without considerable thought.

Having such "out of sync" console launches is brilliant from my prospective.

We won't know their direction until we've seen the thing ourselves. That's all I'm saying Remember what the Wiimote mockups looked like in 2005?

Anyways, backwards compatibility to Wii and Gamecube games would be a huge selling point for their next system. Especially for the core users who didn't buy a Wii. I'd love to play Wii / Gamecube games in HD and Virtual console games should see a resolution bump, too.

Totally agree.

As for the bolded bit  all I keep hearing is what Kinect is capable of.

I do not doubt that it is capable of some amazing stuff but the time is coming when I don't want to be hearing about what it is capable of anymore, I want to be seeing and experiencing. I am pretty sure I won't be disappointed but I am no seer.

As you pointed out the forthcoming nintendo system does bring some "new" interesting factors onboard and I am eagerly awaiting E3 for these to be clarified.

PS3 and Xbox360 will be "dying" as well once support for 3DS, NGP and N6 starts to gain steam and first party studios start to develop games for PS4 and Xbox 3.

Do you expect a 2013 release? I think late 2013 sounds reasonable.