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Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
psrock said:
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So what, it still needs to be done. Yes, there will be tons of cross platform bewee the wii2/ps3/360, but it ends there.  

yes until the 720 and ps4 comes out


Then they will be wii2/ps4/X720.


for the crappy port would go to the wii 2 when the 720 and ps4 specs and horsepower commence

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 did not criticized because they also got all the exclusive games as well. 

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 



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psrock said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
psrock said:
...

So what, it still needs to be done. Yes, there will be tons of cross platform bewee the wii2/ps3/360, but it ends there.  

yes until the 720 and ps4 comes out


Then they will be wii2/ps4/X720.


for the crappy port would go to the wii 2 when the 720 and ps4 specs and horsepower commence

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 did not criticized because they also got all the exclusive games as well. 

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

yep and the wii 2 will be the crappy port or no port at all ..... it going to be pc/720/ps4 again



psrock said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
psrock said:
...

So what, it still needs to be done. Yes, there will be tons of cross platform bewee the wii2/ps3/360, but it ends there.  

yes until the 720 and ps4 comes out


Then they will be wii2/ps4/X720.


for the crappy port would go to the wii 2 when the 720 and ps4 specs and horsepower commence

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 did not criticized because they also got all the exclusive games as well. 

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

I don't bet, but I can assure you that it won't be 10-20 times more powerful than the Wii2, the foundries are having a nightmare keeping with the moore's law, and 2 years give you now less than 2x the processing power, while in the good times it was more than 2x every 18 months. Sony won't commit suicide this time.



RolStoppable said:
Kynes said:

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 didn't get the worst ports. It was the lead platform and most multiplatform games looked pretty much identical, even though at first some developers made some use of the advanced capabilities of the Xbox and Gamecube. Over time companies stopped to bother and the Gamecube began to get the worst ports, followed by lower sales, followed by worse ports, followed by worse sales, followed by no ports at all.

The only "bad" ports the PS2 really got were formerly Gamecube exclusive games

That's true, maybe I should have said the less powerful console by far of the last generation.



Kynes said:
psrock said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
psrock said:
...

So what, it still needs to be done. Yes, there will be tons of cross platform bewee the wii2/ps3/360, but it ends there.  

yes until the 720 and ps4 comes out


Then they will be wii2/ps4/X720.


for the crappy port would go to the wii 2 when the 720 and ps4 specs and horsepower commence

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 did not criticized because they also got all the exclusive games as well. 

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

I don't bet, but I can assure you that it won't be 10-20 times more powerful than the Wii2, the foundries are having a nightmare keeping with the moore's law, and 2 years give you now less than 2x the processing power. Sony won't commit suicide.

Unless you realize Nintendo will not be using up to date tech. They never do. I see a some great new ways of playing games, decent graphics if not better than PS3, but will feel old in a matter of a year. 



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yup their graphics r still goin be catch up for the xbox and ps3 the hd been going on since 05 for the xbox so 6 and 5 yearss now wii 2 is just playin catch up



psrock said:
Kynes said:
psrock said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
Kynes said:
epicberserk said:
psrock said:
...

So what, it still needs to be done. Yes, there will be tons of cross platform bewee the wii2/ps3/360, but it ends there.  

yes until the 720 and ps4 comes out


Then they will be wii2/ps4/X720.


for the crappy port would go to the wii 2 when the 720 and ps4 specs and horsepower commence

Do you really think Sony and MS want to bleed money again, and are going to subsidize behemoths?

If not, then the difference will be orders of magnitude smaller than this generation. I didn't see so many guys criticizing the PS2 as it got the worst ports by far of that generation.

The PS2 did not criticized because they also got all the exclusive games as well. 

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

I don't bet, but I can assure you that it won't be 10-20 times more powerful than the Wii2, the foundries are having a nightmare keeping with the moore's law, and 2 years give you now less than 2x the processing power. Sony won't commit suicide.

Unless you realize Nintendo will not be using up to date tech. They never do. I see a some great new ways of playing games, decent graphics if not better than PS3, but will feel old in a matter of a year. 

Even then, Sony (and MS) wouldn't want to fight against a thermal and reliability nightmare that a overspecced (as X360 and PS3 were) console could provide with this generation foundries technology. Take a look at the top notch graphics cards, while 2 generations ago  they used to dissipate ~170W, top of the hill graphic cards dissipate nowadays ~300W. That's because we're fighting physics walls here, and you can't dissipate so much power in the small housing of a console (that provides RROD and YLOD problems) This is another reason why this generation has to extend, the foundry advance has slowed in a big way. If 360 and PS3 used to dissipate ~200W when launched, that would mean ~350W in the new generation, and I'm sure they wouldn't want to do so, while Wii dissipates less than 20W, and Nintendo has much wider margins to increase this value if they want.

I can assure you something, Café will be more powerful than Wii comparatively, and PS4/X720 will be less powerful than their precedents comparatively.



psrock said:

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

*whistle*

Will the next Playstation also have new dev tools that make development cost about 10% of what it would otherwise? Because if not, Sony would essentially be pricing devs out of the market! Lord knows many have shown they can't survive in the current environment, and I shudder to think how much worse it'll be if you're right.



noname2200 said:
psrock said:

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

*whistle*

Will the next Playstation also have new dev tools that make development cost about 10% of what it would otherwise? Because if not, Sony would essentially be pricing devs out of the market! Lord knows many have shown they can't survive in the current environment, and I shudder to think how much worse it'll be if you're right.

ps4 is going to cost way less because if they stick to the cell which is familar with dev now and will be cheaper then the ps3 at launch  and they could at least get 3 or 4 x the processing power



noname2200 said:
psrock said:

I will bet you right now the next PS3 will be at least 10-20x more powerful than the Wii2. 

*whistle*

Will the next Playstation also have new dev tools that make development cost about 10% of what it would otherwise? Because if not, Sony would essentially be pricing devs out of the market! Lord knows many have shown they can't survive in the current environment, and I shudder to think how much worse it'll be if you're right.

And yet , people complain about that for the last 5 years, and dev looked at the Wii which is the easiest and cheapest to develop for and ignored it. All Sony has to dos is stick to blu-ray, it wa sthe reason the lost so much money, but prices have going down drasticly and GPU has exploded in a matter of years. The consoles are way behind the PC because its up to date even with a cheap GPU. All Sony needs to do is upgrade its memory and GPU and see a huge gap grows between it and the Wii2. 



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