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Forums - General Discussion - America's greatest leader just declared his candidacy...

I've been hoping he would run, and it seems like he actually has some significant traction. Since his announcement, I've seen both Republicans and Democrats get excited for him.

He is arguably the man with the best experience and group of qualities to lead America. His name is Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico that left office due to term limits, but was arguably one of the most popular governors ever.

He is pro-choice, pro-drugs, anti-war, pro gay, and arguably the most fiscal conservative man to hold high office. As governor, he privatized almost everything, and by the time he left office, had $1 billion in the state coffers.

He's also an ironman athlete that has climbed Mount Everest. During his time as governor, he challeneged the entire state legistlature to stop eating sugar for two months because he thought they were too unhealth. He beat them all by 2 years.

Here are some of his interviews:

 

Hopefully this piques your interest, and you get the word out. I think he's quite electable, but he just needs to get his name out there.



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I would think someone like that would be firmly unelectable on the national stage because he's oriented against major party platforms in different ways. Social Conservatives would eat him alive, and the more Socialist planks of the Left would stop the Democratic vote

Granted, this "socially liberal/fiscally conservative" type probably describes the average American voter better than any other, but we've seen what happens to candidates who try to approach things from outside the power structure. Even if he went third party, he'd likely just be a Perot-style wrecker, sabotaging the victory of one side or antoher.



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i am against Privatisation. Never ever leave state essenitals like Power, water, gas, and public transport to privatisation. It will only lead to increased power, water and gas bills with little or no improvements to the networks and an public transport system where ticketing is the prioity and not saftey or fast relieable services. 



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mchaza said:

i am against Privatisation. Never ever leave state essenitals like Power, water, gas, and public transport to privatisation. It will only lead to increased power, water and gas bills with little or no improvements to the networks and an public transport system where ticketing is the prioity and not saftey or fast relieable services. 

What about in Sandy Springs, Georgia where they privatized everything but firemen and law enforcement, and were able to cut city expenditures by 50% while improving the quality of services offered?

@Khan - Why would such a person be unelectable? You mention Ross Perot - You know had he not dropped out of the race, he would have likely won, as he was handily beating both Bill Clinton and George Bush in polls, right?



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mrstickball said:
mchaza said:

i am against Privatisation. Never ever leave state essenitals like Power, water, gas, and public transport to privatisation. It will only lead to increased power, water and gas bills with little or no improvements to the networks and an public transport system where ticketing is the prioity and not saftey or fast relieable services. 

What about in Sandy Springs, Georgia where they privatized everything but firemen and law enforcement, and were able to cut city expenditures by 50% while improving the quality of services offered?

@Khan - Why would such a person be unelectable? You mention Ross Perot - You know had he not dropped out of the race, he would have likely won, as he was handily beating both Bill Clinton and George Bush in polls, right?

Nationwide or state-by-state? National polling in a three-candidate election is counterintuitive to the electoral college system, straight popularity is not the best determinant

Unelectibility in this case comes from the fact that he couldn't make it in either major party, and both would conspire to crush him from outside the system, and again the electoral college would defeat him, as unless he won an outright majority the vote would go to the Congress, dominated by the big two, who could make that conspiracy against him all the more potent



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mrstickball said:
mchaza said:

i am against Privatisation. Never ever leave state essenitals like Power, water, gas, and public transport to privatisation. It will only lead to increased power, water and gas bills with little or no improvements to the networks and an public transport system where ticketing is the prioity and not saftey or fast relieable services. 

What about in Sandy Springs, Georgia where they privatized everything but firemen and law enforcement, and were able to cut city expenditures by 50% while improving the quality of services offered?

@Khan - Why would such a person be unelectable? You mention Ross Perot - You know had he not dropped out of the race, he would have likely won, as he was handily beating both Bill Clinton and George Bush in polls, right?


things don't necessarily scale as sandy springs =/= U.S. Just because things work on a small scale does not mean they realistically will work on a large scale.

Also, it's possible that if it was too heavily privatized people would say the privatized industries are not being fair and the government would subsequently have to step in anyway.

Look at what currently is happening, the privatization of the nuclear power plant in fukushima is under fire as well. It's very possible that the state wouldn't have taken necessary precautions as well. But privatization didn't work there in that instance.

I'm not saying this canidate is not a good canidate. I haven't read enough about him. And even then it's hard to know until they're in office.

I'm not saying these ideas will not work. As most ideas in theory work, it's how practical is the actual solution is.



mrstickball said:
mchaza said:

i am against Privatisation. Never ever leave state essenitals like Power, water, gas, and public transport to privatisation. It will only lead to increased power, water and gas bills with little or no improvements to the networks and an public transport system where ticketing is the prioity and not saftey or fast relieable services. 

What about in Sandy Springs, Georgia where they privatized everything but firemen and law enforcement, and were able to cut city expenditures by 50% while improving the quality of services offered?

@Khan - Why would such a person be unelectable? You mention Ross Perot - You know had he not dropped out of the race, he would have likely won, as he was handily beating both Bill Clinton and George Bush in polls, right?

From reading wikipedia it seems that the reason why Sandy Springs saved so much money is because they were wealthier than other areas around them and were essentially funding those areas.The outsourcing only happened after the city became incorporated.



Yeah, i saw that... my thought was "Based on this peliminary article. I would vote for him."



Mr Khan said:

I would think someone like that would be firmly unelectable on the national stage because he's oriented against major party platforms in different ways. Social Conservatives would eat him alive, and the more Socialist planks of the Left would stop the Democratic vote

Granted, this "socially liberal/fiscally conservative" type probably describes the average American voter better than any other, but we've seen what happens to candidates who try to approach things from outside the power structure. Even if he went third party, he'd likely just be a Perot-style wrecker, sabotaging the victory of one side or antoher.


You'd normally think that... but Trump is like, leading the republican polls right now, with his "Canadian style healtchare" and "one time 15% tax on the rich" ideas.