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HappySqurriel on 20 April 2011

The vast majority of these points are safe bets, and are likely to be true regardless of whether the writer knows anything or not ...

For example, third party publishers are likely going to release games to any platform they can get it up and running on in the next generation to minimize the risks of the massive game budgets associated with those games. For the first several years, many games will probably be designed around the capabilities of the HD consoles and enhanced for higher end platforms; after that, the lowest common denominator of the next generation consoles (if popular enough) will become the base that the game is designed around, and it will be enhanced for the other platforms and the PC. 



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Play4Fun on 20 April 2011
Gojimaster said:

Nintendo just needs to release a system that is moderately more powerfuly than 360/PS3.

Consumers aren't going to adopt a TV with greater resolution than 1080P for a long time.  The main improvement the next gen needs to provide is more memory  and consistent 1080P at 60hz.  The more memory is clearly needed so consoles can have run games like the PC version of Battlefield 3 with the large maps and multiplayer counts. 

The point of diminishing returns has already arrived in video games.  There isn't much point of 360/PS3 massively improving performance of the PS3 and 360.  It will be too expensive, and games will become too expensive to develop.  I personally think that PS3 and 360 games have been looking great lately and there is only minimal improvements that need to be done on their next gen consoles. 

I'm intersted to see what Nintendo can do.  As I learned this generation, there wasn't too much of a point in owning a PS3 and a 360.  In the next gen I only want to own 1 console-- and I hope Nintendo is powerful enough to fit this demand for me.  I don't want another neglected Wii experience.

In the 6th generation the Playstation 2 was obviously not as powerful as the Xbox, but it still attracted all the great games and stayed the most popular.  I hope Nintendo can duplicate this feat. 

Mah boy! *HI5*

This is pretty much what I want too. Nintendo's console to have hardware for next gen ports and a great online system so I can just have one console with Ninty first party and third party support.

Then one console would be fine for me.



freebs2 on 20 April 2011
Munkeh111 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Munkeh111 said:
superchunk said:
Munkeh111 said:
 

Well it's minimum power will be PS360 level, so the easy thing to do for devs will be to take those games

But I think we all know that Sony and M$ will blow Nintendo out of the water in terms of power


I disagree.

You need to read my other Nintendo thread (see link in sig), but MSony have learned a valuable lesson about $600 consoles that sell for a loss vs $250 systems that sell for a profit and are marginal upgrades from last gen.

MSony will only show a 5-6x performance increase over this gen as compared to the 10-15x they saw against last gen. They will want to launch around $400 max with a profitable or near profitable system (no $200plus loss per item).

They won't want to wait 3 or more years to begin making a profit on the hardware. They will want to be at that level immediately or within its first year.

Well they will almost certainly not be out until 2013, so that will make easier to beat Nintendo in a power perspective


Not significantly. That's the point.

Not the Wii divide, but still significant I believe

You are right, even if we assume that Ps4 will come out in the same period i think Sony an MS would still be able to sell a more powerfull console and being profitable. But I think we should focus on another aspect, now Wii owners have a reason to want a graphical upgrade, I don't know if the same applies for X360 and Ps3 owners. In the 5th generation we were accostumed to GoW1/GoW2/RE4 and GT4 graphics, so when we looked at Gears Of War / Resistance for the frst time it was a BIG leap. Now I think of the next-gen Unreal Engine demo recently shown

and compare it to Uncharted 3

I don't really see a great difference, at least not a difference that would tempt me to buy a new console. What I mean is that imo we have arrived at point (on homeconsoles) where an horsepower rise will not make such a big difference anymore. I may be wrong of course.

 



hehey on 20 April 2011

.....Nintendo getting ready to rape Microsoft and Sony.



haxxiy on 20 April 2011
Soriku said:
haxxiy said:
Soriku said:
Play4Fun said:
  • Nintendo is thinking about launching Zelda: Skyward Sword around the same time as Wii 2 since Wii 2 is backwards compatible with Wii 1 games.  They want to follow the same strategy when they launched Pokemon Black/White when 3DS was coming out.


Yeahhh....no. They already confirmed the game is a 2011 release multiple times. They're not going to delay it another 1.5 plus years.

Why 1.5 plus years? Does Wii 2 is going to release December 31st 2012 and Zelda SS is set for just after the E3? Delay would be anything from three to ten months... and I remember well TP being dead set for April '06...

 


Wii 2 is supposed to be released late 2012...I'm assuming a Nov release. That's 1.5 years plus. That's way too far.

But Zelda isn't releasing right now, is it? That was my point... it would be a delay of 10-11 months at worse considering most assume SS is to release by years' end. And it happened with TP.



 

 

 

 

 

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Mr Khan on 20 April 2011
haxxiy said:
Soriku said:
haxxiy said:
Soriku said:
Play4Fun said:
  • Nintendo is thinking about launching Zelda: Skyward Sword around the same time as Wii 2 since Wii 2 is backwards compatible with Wii 1 games.  They want to follow the same strategy when they launched Pokemon Black/White when 3DS was coming out.


Yeahhh....no. They already confirmed the game is a 2011 release multiple times. They're not going to delay it another 1.5 plus years.

Why 1.5 plus years? Does Wii 2 is going to release December 31st 2012 and Zelda SS is set for just after the E3? Delay would be anything from three to ten months... and I remember well TP being dead set for April '06...

 


Wii 2 is supposed to be released late 2012...I'm assuming a Nov release. That's 1.5 years plus. That's way too far.

But Zelda isn't releasing right now, is it? That was my point... it would be a delay of 10-11 months at worse considering most assume SS is to release by years' end. And it happened with TP.

The difference is that Wii isn't an effective nonentity like GameCube was in the timeframes when they were planning to release TP, they have nothing to gain by dropping Skyward Sword back



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

noname2200 on 20 April 2011
freebs2 said:

But I think we should focus on another aspect, now Wii owners have a reason to want a graphical upgrade, I don't know if the same applies for X360 and Ps3 owners.

It will. Unless Microsoft and Sony take the Wii path, and make the console attractive for something beyond graphics, I can't see people buying their next console unless there's a very noticeable increase in horsepower for the consumer. Why would you pay hundreds of dollars for only marginally better looking games?



Munkeh111 on 20 April 2011
freebs2 said:
Munkeh111 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Munkeh111 said:
superchunk said:
Munkeh111 said:
 

Well it's minimum power will be PS360 level, so the easy thing to do for devs will be to take those games

But I think we all know that Sony and M$ will blow Nintendo out of the water in terms of power


I disagree.

You need to read my other Nintendo thread (see link in sig), but MSony have learned a valuable lesson about $600 consoles that sell for a loss vs $250 systems that sell for a profit and are marginal upgrades from last gen.

MSony will only show a 5-6x performance increase over this gen as compared to the 10-15x they saw against last gen. They will want to launch around $400 max with a profitable or near profitable system (no $200plus loss per item).

They won't want to wait 3 or more years to begin making a profit on the hardware. They will want to be at that level immediately or within its first year.

Well they will almost certainly not be out until 2013, so that will make easier to beat Nintendo in a power perspective


Not significantly. That's the point.

Not the Wii divide, but still significant I believe

You are right, even if we assume that Ps4 will come out in the same period i think Sony an MS would still be able to sell a more powerfull console and being profitable. But I think we should focus on another aspect, now Wii owners have a reason to want a graphical upgrade, I don't know if the same applies for X360 and Ps3 owners. In the 5th generation we were accostumed to GoW1/GoW2/RE4 and GT4 graphics, so when we looked at Gears Of War / Resistance for the frst time it was a BIG leap. Now I think of the next-gen Unreal Engine demo recently shown

and compare it to Uncharted 3

I don't really see a great difference, at least not a difference that would tempt me to buy a new console. What I mean is that imo we have arrived at point (on homeconsoles) where an horsepower rise will not make such a big difference anymore. I may be wrong of course.

 

Next gen, smooth 1080p 3D that is what will be here, and I doubt that is what the Wii is aiming for



haxxiy on 20 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
haxxiy said:
Soriku said:
haxxiy said:
Soriku said:
Play4Fun said:
  • Nintendo is thinking about launching Zelda: Skyward Sword around the same time as Wii 2 since Wii 2 is backwards compatible with Wii 1 games.  They want to follow the same strategy when they launched Pokemon Black/White when 3DS was coming out.


Yeahhh....no. They already confirmed the game is a 2011 release multiple times. They're not going to delay it another 1.5 plus years.

Why 1.5 plus years? Does Wii 2 is going to release December 31st 2012 and Zelda SS is set for just after the E3? Delay would be anything from three to ten months... and I remember well TP being dead set for April '06...

 


Wii 2 is supposed to be released late 2012...I'm assuming a Nov release. That's 1.5 years plus. That's way too far.

But Zelda isn't releasing right now, is it? That was my point... it would be a delay of 10-11 months at worse considering most assume SS is to release by years' end. And it happened with TP.

The difference is that Wii isn't an effective nonentity like GameCube was in the timeframes when they were planning to release TP, they have nothing to gain by dropping Skyward Sword back


Well, it's not like they've shown to care a lot for the Wii... but who knows for sure?

Maybe they could pull something like it was originally intended to happen with TP - releasing for the GC but with special controllling method unlocked if playing on the Wii.



 

 

 

 

 

Ail on 21 April 2011

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/04/21/new.playstation.xbox/index.html?hpt=Sbin

 

I hope that article is right ;)



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !