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Moren on 12 April 2011
miz1q2w3e said:
Nintendogamer said:

Even if I do that you will still and throw water in my face ( metaphorically).

bah who cares about Seece or what he has to say anywho - He's just a big ol meanie is what he is

He's a big ol' meannie with a big ol' point though.



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Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
Seece said:
Nintendogamer said:
Seece said:

You would never say that though. It's either stuff like this, or annoying ridiculous doom and gloom predictions, because some random annoynomous person on N4G said wii is doomed ...

Why can't you just take things for face value?


Even if I do that you will still and throw water in my face ( metaphorically).

How do you know until you try? Stop thinking I'm purposley out to get you, beyond flattering yourself there fella. I respond the some of the absurd posts you make. And you make a lot, so I guess I should forgive you for thinking I'm against you.

I'm not much of a risk taker  to be honest. In a few months time I may write comments that you may just think that are reasonable.



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new 3ds

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zelda U

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LordTheNightKnight on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:


It is still no excuse, Sony is making the NGP, and are still having some pretty great PS3 games on the near future.

And the cost thing is BS, the games costed considerably less than many others, and sell 20 million .... I don't know how it doesn't turn into mass profit.


How is Sony's situation proof of Nintendo's? Not only are they are larger company, they didn't release a new system, and Nintendo has.

Plus making lots of money doesn't mean making lots of games. That can cause saturation, and thin out the talent. Look at EA.

The 3DS, in all likelyhood, used up talent resources to make both the system and the first waves of games. The next wave of Wii games is likely coming, but the work on the other system caused this gap. You can't buy Miyamoto and co. into being in two places at once.


As far as I'm concerned, EA has done plenty of games this year, and their games don't sell nearly as good as Nintendo's.

And even if Sony haven't released a new game system, it is in development, and they still have a great line-up that extends as far as 2012.


What part of that did you miss? If Sony can make more games, that is because they have more people, not because they are equivalent to Nintendo, but magically more productive.

As for EA, their games not selling as well is the point. Again, saturation and thinning out.

Sure it would be nice if there was a situation where Nintendo could release a constant stream of games, but they don't have as many people as you think.

Now you could blame a misallocation of their talent causing the gap, but assuming they are just as comparable to larger companies, or to assume that the money they make can magically make the same amount of people work twice as hard, is ridiculous.

In short, you have a right to not like the lineup, but not the facts about why it happened, as they are fallacious. Hate the lineup because they planned poorly, not because they didn't supposedly spend enough of the money they made.


But that's not my point, EA games don't sell as well, but they keep releasing a constant flow of games, good-ish ones in fact.

And show me some proof of your claim Nintendo studios aren't big, that is just silly, you're saying that with so many years of many games Nitendo has a small studio? Do you even know how many divisions they have?


They have about half as much as EA (depending on how many have been hired back after all the layoffs).

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Electronic-Arts-Fires-1-500-Employees-126527.shtml

"when 1,100 employees, amounting to 11 percent of its working force, were fired"

http://press.nintendo.com/docs/corporate/FinancialHighlights090507.pdf

"Number of employees (At year-end) ... 4,130"

These were from financial reports last year, so we'll have to wait for newer reports, but unless something drastic happened, there is still going to be a gap.

Next time do some research before just assuming a company has all the resources you think they should have.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Moren on 12 April 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:


It is still no excuse, Sony is making the NGP, and are still having some pretty great PS3 games on the near future.

And the cost thing is BS, the games costed considerably less than many others, and sell 20 million .... I don't know how it doesn't turn into mass profit.


How is Sony's situation proof of Nintendo's? Not only are they are larger company, they didn't release a new system, and Nintendo has.

Plus making lots of money doesn't mean making lots of games. That can cause saturation, and thin out the talent. Look at EA.

The 3DS, in all likelyhood, used up talent resources to make both the system and the first waves of games. The next wave of Wii games is likely coming, but the work on the other system caused this gap. You can't buy Miyamoto and co. into being in two places at once.


As far as I'm concerned, EA has done plenty of games this year, and their games don't sell nearly as good as Nintendo's.

And even if Sony haven't released a new game system, it is in development, and they still have a great line-up that extends as far as 2012.


What part of that did you miss? If Sony can make more games, that is because they have more people, not because they are equivalent to Nintendo, but magically more productive.

As for EA, their games not selling as well is the point. Again, saturation and thinning out.

Sure it would be nice if there was a situation where Nintendo could release a constant stream of games, but they don't have as many people as you think.

Now you could blame a misallocation of their talent causing the gap, but assuming they are just as comparable to larger companies, or to assume that the money they make can magically make the same amount of people work twice as hard, is ridiculous.

In short, you have a right to not like the lineup, but not the facts about why it happened, as they are fallacious. Hate the lineup because they planned poorly, not because they didn't supposedly spend enough of the money they made.


But that's not my point, EA games don't sell as well, but they keep releasing a constant flow of games, good-ish ones in fact.

And show me some proof of your claim Nintendo studios aren't big, that is just silly, you're saying that with so many years of many games Nitendo has a small studio? Do you even know how many divisions they have?


They have about half as much as EA (depending on how many have been hired back after all the layoffs).

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Electronic-Arts-Fires-1-500-Employees-126527.shtml

"when 1,100 employees, amounting to 11 percent of its working force, were fired"

http://press.nintendo.com/docs/corporate/FinancialHighlights090507.pdf

"Number of employees (At year-end) ... 4,130"

These were from financial reports last year, so we'll have to wait for newer reports, but unless something drastic happened, there is still going to be a gap.

Next time do some research before just assuming a company has all the resources you think they should have.

That's funny, I found they have 7 EAD teams, and most of them aren't really working on anything. And why just not cound other studios they have too?

It's pointless, you can't accept it's Nintendo's own fault to have such a weak line-up, I'm done with you.



miz1q2w3e on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Nintendogamer said:

Even if I do that you will still and throw water in my face ( metaphorically).

bah who cares about Seece or what he has to say anywho - He's just a big ol meanie is what he is

He's a big ol' meannie with a big ol' point though.

And that would be what exactly? - He's contributed nothing to the thread as far as I can see



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LordTheNightKnight on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:

That's funny, I found they have 7 EAD teams, and most of them aren't really working on anything. And why just not cound other studios they have too?

It's pointless, you can't accept it's Nintendo's own fault to have such a weak line-up, I'm done with you.


What? How does me stating they planned poorly mean I'm claiming it's not their fault? I'm just calling on your claim that they have more resources than they have.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Seece on 12 April 2011
miz1q2w3e said:
morenoingrato said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Nintendogamer said:

Even if I do that you will still and throw water in my face ( metaphorically).

bah who cares about Seece or what he has to say anywho - He's just a big ol meanie is what he is

He's a big ol' meannie with a big ol' point though.

And that would be what exactly? - He's contributed nothing to the thread as far as I can see

It's part of Nintendogamers rehabilitation, please, mind your own!



 

IamAwsome on 12 April 2011

EVERYONE THIS IS THE REAL REASON NINTENDO HASN'T BROUGHT OUT AS MANY GAMES AS SONY.

 

The reason that Nintendo doesn't bring out as many games as Sony is because they don't have as many studios. To add to that, all of Nintendo's 1st Party studios excluding Retro, HAL, and EAD3 are officially working on 3DS games. Sony has like 14 internal studios, and several second party affiliates. Of the 14 games Sony has planned, for release this year on PS3, 8 of them were developed by outside studios and not by SCE WWS.  They are all working on both the NGP and PS3. When you combine the force of the 3DS, coupled with Sony's massive Worldwide Studios group and external partners, Nintendo can't produce as many games as Sony in the same timeframe. This is why Sony puts more games out faster.



miz1q2w3e on 12 April 2011
Seece said:
miz1q2w3e said:

And that would be what exactly? - He's contributed nothing to the thread as far as I can see

It's part of Nintendogamers rehabilitation, please, mind your own!

o_O



Carl on 12 April 2011

So...

Super Wii revealed at E3?