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4k1x3r said:
radiantshadow92 said:
MonstaMack said:

I think Forza 3's ratings speak for themselves.

If anything they need to appeal to a more casual audience because sales need to get better.


lolwut?

He's talking about Forza, compared to GT5 it sucks, so he's right. Eventhough GT5 put aside the sales are good, not to mention that Forza and GT will never be in competition, so...

oh my bad i thought he mean't GT lol



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4k1x3r said:
MonstaMack said:

I think Forza 3's ratings speak for themselves.

If anything they need to appeal to a more casual audience because sales need to get better.

Forza already appeals to a casual audience. Real tracks are larger so you can drive easier, if you make a mistake you can go X secs back and try again, if that's not how you appeal to casual audience I don't know what it is...

Forza needs to appeal to a more core audience in fact, because most of the reviews said GT5 is THE BEST RACING SIM out there, they just didn't like the packaging, and that's the difference. So reviews speak for themselves if you read them. :)

Giving a score is becoming less and less relevant, GT5 vs Forza 3 is a good example :

- they say GT5 is the best racing sim

- yet Forza ends up having a better score

- what made GT5 getting a worse score than Forza 3 has nothing to do with the racing simulation in itself

- but aren't they racing sim and should be reviewed with that in mind? Because saying GT5 is worse because they don't like its menus and I don't like jazz music in those menus, seriously WTF? And who looks at the trees when he drives? Who looks at the shadow of the wheel? Who fucking cares if a Daihastu is only standard?

One thing that I reproach to GT5 is why the hell is a Bugatti standard when, for example, two mini cooper's are premium? I don't get it. Yet there are 199 other cars that are premium and that you can play with, and some of them are better too. And this has nothing to do with racing sim, but polishing. If GT6 is GT5 with quicker menus, and 500 cars fully modeled (I don't care for 30 nissan with few differences between them), then I'd be happy. (3d trees too if possible, it's ugly when I take a picture)...

Forza is already better than GT... haha nice joke =D Forza is not even close.

Don't even start with that man, they both are fantastic games and they are pretty close to each other in terms of quality (with GT5 being slightly better then Forza 3)



Racing sims suck and are boring, there's a reason why sales for games on this genre are dying.



ElGranCabeza said:

Racing sims suck and are boring, there's a reason why sales for games on this genre are dying.


I'm convinced you're a joke poster.



bevochan said:

It's analagous of how Dallas Cowboys fans rooted against Dallas Cowboys so Wade Phillips would get fired for the betterment of Cowboys' long term future.  I thought Polyphony was a little cocky.  Despite great graphics for cars and some tracks, they didn't put enough all-around polish in the game:  cardboard-looking trees, spectors, jagged edged shadows, rain and just awful menu screen.... 

If Forza 4 wins over as the consensus leader in racing stim game, then Polyphony has no choice to not rest on their laurels for GT6.

Of what you stated above, I can see issues regarding the menus being valid.  However, what part of how trees look, or spectators, is relevant to driving?  They kept delaying GT5 forever, due to whatever the reasons were for wanting to be improved.  But what do the other complainst have to do with actually driving?



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Carl2291 said:

Wait a minute...

You want Forza 4, Turn 10's game, to be better because... Polyphony Digital were getting cocky?

Okay.


LOL, THANK YOU!!!



richardhutnik said:
bevochan said:

It's analagous of how Dallas Cowboys fans rooted against Dallas Cowboys so Wade Phillips would get fired for the betterment of Cowboys' long term future.  I thought Polyphony was a little cocky.  Despite great graphics for cars and some tracks, they didn't put enough all-around polish in the game:  cardboard-looking trees, spectors, jagged edged shadows, rain and just awful menu screen.... 

If Forza 4 wins over as the consensus leader in racing stim game, then Polyphony has no choice to not rest on their laurels for GT6.

Of what you stated above, I can see issues regarding the menus being valid.  However, what part of how trees look, or spectators, is relevant to driving?  They kept delaying GT5 forever, due to whatever the reasons were for wanting to be improved.  But what do the other complainst have to do with actually driving?

Because they're so bad that they turn my eyes away from the car. And this is not a joke, it just ruins a lot of the fun.



makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

Racing sims suck and are boring, there's a reason why sales for games on this genre are dying.


I'm convinced you're a joke poster.


Because I speak the truth?



ElGranCabeza said:

Racing sims suck and are boring, there's a reason why sales for games on this genre are dying.




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ElGranCabeza said:
makingmusic476 said:
ElGranCabeza said:

Racing sims suck and are boring, there's a reason why sales for games on this genre are dying.


I'm convinced you're a joke poster.


Because I speak the truth?


If you spoke the truth, then GT5 wouldn't have ever passed 3.9 million sales.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.