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How Long Before a 3DS Redesign?

2012 115 43.56%
 
2013 113 42.80%
 
2014 25 9.47%
 
Later than 2014 7 2.65%
 
Never 4 1.52%
 
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Kennyheart on 11 April 2011

When is tokyo game show?



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Viper1 on 11 April 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
Aether7 said:

They should call the redesign the 2DS, droping the 3D screen altogether. This will appeal to potential buyers that do not like the 3D and can't justify buying a system that is called "3DS" only to play it in 2D. This will both drop the cost and increase the battery life. It can be marketed to show the value of all the other features besides the 3D.

As far as time frame, I think it should be ASAP. It should be more of a second tier than a redesign, kind of like what sony is doing with the NGP, having a version with and without the 3G.

Using the 3DS in 2D mode would yeild the same battery life as a 2D only 3DS.   So you gain very little by dropping 3D except for a fragmented market.


Yeah, it would have to drop the constant wireless as well, and I find a lot of people wouldn't miss that, as they would just want online when they want the system online.

But that's part of the Street Pass and Spot Pass features.   And that works when the sytem is closed so you're not using much battery then anyway.  

Kennyheart said:

When is tokyo game show?


Sept 15 - 18



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LordTheNightKnight on 11 April 2011
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Viper1 said:
Aether7 said:

They should call the redesign the 2DS, droping the 3D screen altogether. This will appeal to potential buyers that do not like the 3D and can't justify buying a system that is called "3DS" only to play it in 2D. This will both drop the cost and increase the battery life. It can be marketed to show the value of all the other features besides the 3D.

As far as time frame, I think it should be ASAP. It should be more of a second tier than a redesign, kind of like what sony is doing with the NGP, having a version with and without the 3G.

Using the 3DS in 2D mode would yeild the same battery life as a 2D only 3DS.   So you gain very little by dropping 3D except for a fragmented market.


Yeah, it would have to drop the constant wireless as well, and I find a lot of people wouldn't miss that, as they would just want online when they want the system online.

But that's part of the Street Pass and Spot Pass features.   And that works when the sytem is closed so you're not using much battery then anyway.  

Kennyheart said:

When is tokyo game show?


Sept 15 - 18


Well they've been reported as reasons the DSi battery is shorter, so I assumed they would do the same here.

But another reason for a revision would be available methods to make the parts smaller and more efficient (very likely if the system volume picks up fast). Combine that with a stronger battery, and you have damn good reasons to remake the system.



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Viper1 on 11 April 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:


Well they've been reported as reasons the DSi battery is shorter, so I assumed they would do the same here.

But another reason for a revision would be available methods to make the parts smaller and more efficient (very likely if the system volume picks up fast). Combine that with a stronger battery, and you have damn good reasons to remake the system.

Sure, reducing your BOM is always a good thing to do but you can do that with basic revisions.  Look how many the PS2 had.  19 or so.  But it had just 1 major hardware redesign.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

LordTheNightKnight on 11 April 2011
Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:


Well they've been reported as reasons the DSi battery is shorter, so I assumed they would do the same here.

But another reason for a revision would be available methods to make the parts smaller and more efficient (very likely if the system volume picks up fast). Combine that with a stronger battery, and you have damn good reasons to remake the system.

Sure, reducing your BOM is always a good thing to do but you can do that with basic revisions.  Look how many the PS2 had.  19 or so.  But it had just 1 major hardware redesign.


Well then it depends on the PR. The PSP and DS both had revisions sooner due to bad PR, while systems like the NES, PS1, PS2, and Gameboy could wait for major revisions.

On the other hand, the PS1 and PS2 did have disc drive fixes soon, so the battery issue could be a minor revision.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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Alby_da_Wolf on 12 April 2011

They could sell as an add-on a jacket with a generator driven by a stirling engine using body heat.  They could call it "McGyver 3DS Everlasting Power Source".   



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archbrix on 12 April 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:

They could sell as an add-on a jacket with a generator driven by a stirling engine using body heat.  They could call it "McGyver 3DS Everlasting Power Source".   

The only problems with this is that the regenerative heat exchanger needed and the royalties for the McGyver name would result in making the device a bit too expensive...    



Alby_da_Wolf on 12 April 2011
archbrix said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

They could sell as an add-on a jacket with a generator driven by a stirling engine using body heat.  They could call it "McGyver 3DS Everlasting Power Source".   

The only problems with this is that the regenerative heat exchanger needed and the royalties for the McGyver name would result in making the device a bit too expensive...    

That's why I had a plan B to cut at least the royallties cost, and also some of the production costs: they could cut the least hard parts of the stirling engine with "Miracle Blade" knives and call the gadget "Chef Tony 3DS Everlasting Juice". BTW Chef Tony is a close relative of Ron Jeremy and Mario, so he'll surely accord Ninty a special price, or maybe even give his name's use for free if cuz Mario accepts to assist him in a promo for the knives.   



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Aether7 on 13 April 2011
Jumpin said:

There is a 2DS available, it is called the DSi, it is a last generation handheld now.

I don't think there will be much of a market for a 2D only version of the 3DS system, probably next to nothing; the graphical quality of the games benefits a huge amount from the 3D, and they look fairly bland and lifeless in 2D. The pricing likely won't go down a lot either, as the games are developed to meet certain hardware characteristics, which includes the 800x240 screen, the processor, RAM, etc... Not to mention the development costs - the tech is cheap to reproduce, but the dev costs were probably fairly pricey. Not to mention, creating a non-3D 3DS would be the same as creating a non-HD PS3, it just was never going to happen due to similar reasons to the ones I listed above.

The 3DS in 2D would not be last gen. After trying the in store demo, the graphics look much better in 2D. While I could see in 3D, I could not keep everything in focus as once, the HUD was at screen level but was blurry because I was looking past the screen.

Droping the 3D screen along with a few other features mentioned would save battery life and costs. A price at around $200 would be a winner.