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smbu2000 said:
Jordahn said:
buglebum said:
Jordahn said:

A more appropriate thread title would be...

Anonymous stops attack on PSN (Anonymous experience backlash from gaming community.  Hacking efforts thwarted by Prolexic Technologies.)

That's better.

Ummm no, they are carrying on just not going for PSN by sounds of things. Why do you think they are even doing it?


Maybe because they are a bunch of douchebags for offending legit consumers such as I by harming my rights as a consumer?

I totally agree with this! "Sony" is acting like a douchebag and offending legit consumers such as I by harming my rights as a consumer!

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/01/sony-v-hotz-sony-sends-dangerous-message

You are talking about Sony, right?


Let me help you out here:

http://www.abcteach.com/directory/reading_comprehension/

...especially snice we are talking about anon here, NOT George.



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bannedagain said:



People are going to do it anyway. Anon is going after the Kock brothers. Corruption in banking, scientology. these people all deserve it. If this goes through they then can move on to push more of there agenda. If you read that article, people can't even report flaws of the product without getting sued.  do what MS does. Ban the system, seems to be working. People are still buying games and if you want to go that route. Why don't you just shut down every single gamestop. It's basically reselling there information. People are always going to mod systems and the best thing you can do is just ban it from online. Since thats where it is illegal. On your system it is not.  Sony getting everyone's information, no matter how much it means is against the law and someone has been payoff to get those.

I'm all for the developer getting the money, I pay for all my games and have over 70 games. So i hear you there. I just don't like them stepping all over our rights to do it. Make the system more mod proof. Charge for online. Maybe sony should start charging rather then going after everyone to make up there loses. what a joke. If they just ban the system, many people will go out and buy  a new system. However xbox has been modable the whole time and hasn't stopped them from outselling ps3 in software. So there is no clear cut picture here. the problem is the games are to expensive to make and stores like gamestop play the biggest role. They actually play the whole role. In the mist of gaming, modding is the last thing bringing down systems besides the computer industry. It's gamestop and I wouldn't even say it's the hacking on computers, it's the point its on a computer and most people are accustom to a tv/ system setup. Thats the way I like it and so do many others.

I actully agree with what you said. this is a diverse issue with many different sides, so imo its not just a question of right or wrong. but i do understand what Anon and Geohotz are supporting, which is their user rights. but i dont agree with distribution of that information or perhaps the way Geohotz went about it.



Jordahn said:
ethomaz said:

Why pay so much attention to that shit "anonymous"?


Simply put, anonymous FAILED, and now they are trying to save face.  And you have those who were hoping for some unjustifiable harm to SONY, looking towards anonymous to do that harm. Since anonymous FAILED, those rooting for them have to sugar coat those failings to justify their support of them.

when did they fail? the just changed tactic... they brought down the PSN three days in a row... as well as playstation.com and Sony's official website. I mean are you saying they should continue to bring down the PSN? I'm sure they will change back if enough people ask them too because of their apparent failure to continue to do so..............



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A203D said:
bannedagain said:



People are going to do it anyway. Anon is going after the Kock brothers. Corruption in banking, scientology. these people all deserve it. If this goes through they then can move on to push more of there agenda. If you read that article, people can't even report flaws of the product without getting sued.  do what MS does. Ban the system, seems to be working. People are still buying games and if you want to go that route. Why don't you just shut down every single gamestop. It's basically reselling there information. People are always going to mod systems and the best thing you can do is just ban it from online. Since thats where it is illegal. On your system it is not.  Sony getting everyone's information, no matter how much it means is against the law and someone has been payoff to get those.

I'm all for the developer getting the money, I pay for all my games and have over 70 games. So i hear you there. I just don't like them stepping all over our rights to do it. Make the system more mod proof. Charge for online. Maybe sony should start charging rather then going after everyone to make up there loses. what a joke. If they just ban the system, many people will go out and buy  a new system. However xbox has been modable the whole time and hasn't stopped them from outselling ps3 in software. So there is no clear cut picture here. the problem is the games are to expensive to make and stores like gamestop play the biggest role. They actually play the whole role. In the mist of gaming, modding is the last thing bringing down systems besides the computer industry. It's gamestop and I wouldn't even say it's the hacking on computers, it's the point its on a computer and most people are accustom to a tv/ system setup. Thats the way I like it and so do many others.

I actully agree with what you said. this is a diverse issue with many different sides, so imo its not just a question of right or wrong. but i do understand what Anon and Geohotz are supporting, which is their user rights. but i dont agree with distribution of that information or perhaps the way Geohotz went about it.


He put his method on his website and youtube, spreading information using a website and youtube is so unheard of and insane it blows my mind. /sarcasm



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Xen said:

I wonder what they'll do next, haha. 


Probably teepee Sony exec's houses 



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ssj12 said:
Jordahn said:
ethomaz said:

Why pay so much attention to that shit "anonymous"?


Simply put, anonymous FAILED, and now they are trying to save face.  And you have those who were hoping for some unjustifiable harm to SONY, looking towards anonymous to do that harm. Since anonymous FAILED, those rooting for them have to sugar coat those failings to justify their support of them.

when did they fail? the just changed tactic... they brought down the PSN three days in a row... as well as playstation.com and Sony's official website. I mean are you saying they should continue to bring down the PSN? I'm sure they will change back if enough people ask them too because of their apparent failure to continue to do so..............


Personally, I wouldn't change tactics if it were working.  What's the point in taking something down if it goes back up again?  Sounds like they could not keep it down so they had to try again.  Just like the old say, "If you don't success, try again."  They tried two more times because they didn't succeed to keep the network down.  So they stopped.  Makes perfect sense.



They took down http://www.sonycareers.com/ 



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LivingMetal said:
ssj12 said:
Jordahn said:
ethomaz said:

Why pay so much attention to that shit "anonymous"?


Simply put, anonymous FAILED, and now they are trying to save face.  And you have those who were hoping for some unjustifiable harm to SONY, looking towards anonymous to do that harm. Since anonymous FAILED, those rooting for them have to sugar coat those failings to justify their support of them.

when did they fail? the just changed tactic... they brought down the PSN three days in a row... as well as playstation.com and Sony's official website. I mean are you saying they should continue to bring down the PSN? I'm sure they will change back if enough people ask them too because of their apparent failure to continue to do so..............


Personally, I wouldn't change tactics if it were working.  What's the point in taking something down if it goes back up again?  Sounds like they could not keep it down so they had to try again.  Just like the old say, "If you don't success, try again."  They tried two more times because they didn't succeed to keep the network down.  So they stopped.  Makes perfect sense.

DDoS attacks are never permanently sustaining as it requires every user or PC to constantly use LOIC and clog-up the networks. Also IPs can easily be blocked which reduces the effect. Even when banned, an DDoS attack can slow down a server as it takes a process away from the CPU to deny access, Its just not as effective.

Plus all a downed server needs to do is be rebooted as its back up again. Then process starts all over again with overloading it.

It seems that many users asked them to stop so they can play online. The iirc channels that anon uses are typically public so people could have logged on and asked them to stop.



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dsister said:

They took down http://www.sonycareers.com/ 


that doesnt effect the general public so thats fair game.



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