Actually no.

Public Defenders are only for Criminal Trials.

Besides, if how much you spent on your lawyers didn't help, sony wouldn't be spending over 1.5 million dollars in the "battle" vs Geohotz.

Also this is only for defense, you can't get a free lawyer because sony is infringing on your rights even if you wanted to try them in criminal court.

You can also look up for the time when Sony had a support homebrew in PSP, it was official and even were in their forum.

About the innovators. Why don't the genius figure out how to put a bluray driver on a Xbox, create a homebrew and play PS3 games there, none of these is illegal. Better try to do something teach everybody how to and lead to piracy - doens't matter if it's good or bad for gaming it's still illegal.

You can say that what i say is illogical as much as you want. But have you seem any of those hackers figuring out ways to improve the PS3 for everybody and sending Sony information on How to make the system better and more safe or they trying to take advantage of exploits?

If you can pay for something it means it is bad?? You can buy a car for 5000,00 or 5.000.000,00 both will take you to your destination.

And I'll agree with you that having money to expend on lawyers can help your case, but even if you expend 1 billion on a court case I don't think you can erase a emend of the constitution...

On a lot of my mother trials, she were a lawyer for common people against companies worth some 100 million or more, and guess what most cases she won... when you are right the chances that you'll win are pretty good.

And you also can't say Sony is evil because they are spending more with their lawyers, or that it's unfair. If it's consumers right you can do a class action suit... pick those people that think other/os is a reason to sue, put them together - some defensors say this is a problem for a lot of people, maybe 1 million? - pick how much they spend in games and is probably more than 50 dollars year... then you would have 50 million defense against 1,5 million if it's money that wins try it.

Hahaha, so now your convinced hackers are in a giant conspiracy vs Sony.

Also, you do know the 360 is hacked and allows homebrew right?

Not if they drag out the proceedings until your out of money.

Which is what happens in the US.

Though actually you might win, like Bleem did, but you'll go out of buisness in winning.

As will anyone after who tries the same thing, since they'll just sue you as well even though they've already lost the exact same case.

Which is what Sony does.  Which you'd know.

If you bothered to read that above article.  Your just going into circles making arguements that have already been disproven....

I mean we covered this "No free lawyers in civil cases".

Not convinced that they are on giant conspiracy. But even so i don't see any of them releasing things to do things better, they are basically each one looking for their own interests. Just don't cover it as everyone else interest and rights that they are caring for.

360 doesn't allow homebrew, the hack enable homebrew there is a little difference... but if sony is evil and you can't stand them, just hack a 360 (as people say that Xbox is more powerfull and better in everything) so that you can run PS3 games also - and of course don't buy Sony 1st party as they are evil also.

Ok won't discuss about free lawyers, but in a mass action suit you can have the lawyer at lower cost - and mitigated between all members - and great part of his profit going after they win the case and sony have to pay the damage... and also I bet a lot of gamers are lawyers why don't unite?? I saw so many members here that sounds as if professional in law - they think they are - that if they got together they could sue sony, let them try it.

And you know you can sue Sony in other countries don't you? Try a cheaper one, choose your jurisdiction - as Sony is doing with GeoHotz - to the one that is most favorable to you... you may even try the OMC chambers, global jurisdiction. Saying that the only way to defeat Sony that cheats using legal methods is using illegal methods isn't a real answer... and I know you are much more inteligent than this.

It wouldn't be illegal to enable PS3 games to be played on a 360 by the way.  That's actually what the Bleem lawsuit settled, it would be totally legal for someone to make their own "Playstationz thrid" that played PS3 games if they wanted, or conversion kits so your PS3 could play wii games or whatever.

The only reason nobody does is.... well because the companies will put you in lawsuit hell and cost you your livelyhood, so it's not worth it... and the bigger companies don't feel like antagonizing each other.

It ain't like Microsoft is any "less evil" it's just they focus more on big groups and less on individuals, they're just less petty.

 As for them "Releasing things to do things better" you do realize that's why Geohotz is being sued right?

Becuase he made his PS3 better and released the information so that everybody could make their PS3 better.  If they did only care about themselves, Sony wouldn't be sueing anyone.

you payed 600 dollars for the ps3 and got over 200 dollars worth of FREE shit (but you guys didn't know that, or else you heads wouldn't be so far up your *never-mind*) Sony were losing tons of money by including the free shit of they cut it, the small amount of ignorant moron user thought Sony did it because they where evil and only care about money, (completely ignoring ALL the money they lost this gen on the ps3), so they hacked the ps3 and compromised the security paving the way for online cheaters and pirates ("but- but we don't supportz teh pirates" yeah and they're all using YOUR firmware you  cuntpickle <--funny) Sony sues for the enabling, and the hacking community goes bonkers, and here we are today with anon. hacking Sony.

now for teh lolz:

Lolz at the people comparing the ps3 to a smart phone, they're like the exact opposite in almost every way, ps3 was retailed for 200 dollars LESS than what it was worth, Smart phones are all priced for 200 dollars MORE than what they're worth, ps3 is on a unified network of millions of unknown users who connect to each other daily and tampering with this service can effect them all, you hack your phone the only end user you'll be effecting is yourself, and go ahead and hack version call service effecting the calls and texts of other users on their network and see if they don't sue the motherfuck out your ass.

Lolz at the "security researchers" seeing as not only are they not hired by Sony for any security purposes but their goal and what they accomplished was destroying the security allowing hacking cheating and pirating. what a fucking crock that is.

* random guy walks into bank, starts fiddling with vault door, bank manager asks him "what the hell are you doing" random guy say don't worry I'm a "security researcher" I'm looking for holes in this vault that would allow people to easily crack it open, oh here's something there's a big hole here in the security code *takes down hole* goes home and post on his blog "which is frequented by bank robbers" here is a security code and all the tools I just used to break into this bank vault, *bank gets raided and robbed, bank manger says to the guy why did you do that, guy goes hey bro I'm against robbing banks and stealing for that matter, see I told ALL the random fucking people of the world NOT to do it, that's makes me ok, and look on the bright side they didn't steal ALL your money.

No you can't. If your a US citizen and try and sue Sony in Europe, the case would be dismissed.

This is why though in Europe, if you were pissed about Sony removing other OS you could get your money back.

Sony KNEW they couldn't stall as much there.

Heck, as it stands today, Sony will probably lose this case and have to refile in NJ.  Of course, that doesn't mean much to Sony, who have deep pockets... though for Geohotz.

By trying to sue him in cali, it really is just another case of Sony's underhanded and unethical practices.