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pizzahut451 said:

So you're telling me emulators come with the PC together once you buy one?

I take it all Windows users that use something else than Internet Explorer as their web browser have hacked their PC? Because emulators are no different from any other software, inluding browsers, in that regard.



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Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:


You can also play SNES emulators on PS3. Are you including emulators now? Your point?

Not out of the box. And why not include emulators?

Well, you do need to put a flash drive in PS3's USB slot... and emulators are not really part of the platform itself, its just a hack.

I'm just making the point that everything is accessible (in terms of number of games) on PC.

Get a PC and everything is downloadable. On PS3 you have to get the hack and use it in ways that weren't intended and potentially can ruin your warranty.


Yes, everything is accessible on PC...with hacks.

And you just need to downgrade PS3 belov 3.41 and than just stick PS3 jaikbreak flash drive in USB port and thats it -  thats hardly any hacking

Er, you have it backwords... possibly intentionally?

You don't have to hack anything to get things on the PC.

While you know, what you described very much is hacking the PS3.


So you're telling me emulators come with the PC together once you buy one?


Er... downloading isn't hacking?

You don't need to bypass any security features to use an emulator on PC.


Is putting a flash drive in USB slot hacking?



Zkuq said:
pizzahut451 said:

So you're telling me emulators come with the PC together once you buy one?

I take it all Windows users that use something else than Internet Explorer as their web browser have hacked their PC? Because emulators are no different from any other software, inluding browsers, in that regard.

Yes, they are



pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:
Scoobes said:
pizzahut451 said:


You can also play SNES emulators on PS3. Are you including emulators now? Your point?

Not out of the box. And why not include emulators?

Well, you do need to put a flash drive in PS3's USB slot... and emulators are not really part of the platform itself, its just a hack.

I'm just making the point that everything is accessible (in terms of number of games) on PC.

Get a PC and everything is downloadable. On PS3 you have to get the hack and use it in ways that weren't intended and potentially can ruin your warranty.


Yes, everything is accessible on PC...with hacks.

And you just need to downgrade PS3 belov 3.41 and than just stick PS3 jaikbreak flash drive in USB port and thats it -  thats hardly any hacking

Er, you have it backwords... possibly intentionally?

You don't have to hack anything to get things on the PC.

While you know, what you described very much is hacking the PS3.


So you're telling me emulators come with the PC together once you buy one?


Er... downloading isn't hacking?

You don't need to bypass any security features to use an emulator on PC.


Is putting a flash drive in USB slot hacking?

If it bypasses security devices?  Yes.



pizzahut451 said:
Zkuq said:
pizzahut451 said:

So you're telling me emulators come with the PC together once you buy one?

I take it all Windows users that use something else than Internet Explorer as their web browser have hacked their PC? Because emulators are no different from any other software, inluding browsers, in that regard.

Yes, they are

Would you mind giving out some details about your statement?



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Scoobes said:
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"Other industries, such as gaming software, have fared well too. Entertainment software sales have gone through the roof in recent years and surpassed that of movie ticket sales and CD sales, the report explains. The researchers further note that games such as World of Warcraft are immune to piracy because of their business model, and that game consumers are often very loyal to game developers, and on average more hesitant to pirate."

I am fairly sure that "owned" applies best here. Also, piracy affects all mediums the same way.

Once again, it just babbles on about what isn't suffering from piracy and industries helped by piracy. But no mention of the publishers and developers that actually produce the software and how they are affected.

Late ports, less support from major developers, and frequent digital download sales is all a reflection of how piracy is hurting PC game sales.

Aren't publishers and developers a part of the industry? If the industry is helped by piracy than surely it's overall a good thing for the publishers and developers.

Also, the support hasn't decreased from developers or publishers. Games are still being released on PC, it's just a lot of once PC "exclusive" studios are also releasing on consoles and I'm not sure why you think frequent digital download sales are a bad thing. If anything, a digital download is more profitable for publishers as they control the pricing and get larger profit margins as they cut out the retailer. It's also helped smaller/medium sized studios find significant niche markets in which they can thrive.

No, the articles he posted talk about how other industries are being helped. For example producers of blank CDs. I'm sure piracy also helps sales of video cards and other PC gaming hardware. The articles are reaching for any good of piracy and completely ignore the direct harm its caused for publishers and developers.

There is still support for the PC but its its pretty evident consoles are the priority more then ever for high end titles.

Digital download sales of PC games aren't a bad thing per se. But they happen because piracy is such a big issue. They are done to deter piracy and get whatever money they can.

For some reason you're defending digital download services but I'm not attacking them.



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@pizzahut  i love your avatar man, but lets get real. all that stuff you describe for PS3 is a pain in the ass, who in their right mind would go through that jsut to play some old games on it??? Especially if they have a PC, doesnt even have to be close to high-end, google "SNES Emulator, or Genesis or hell 32x if your so inclined (i did this) and hit download and look for roms. its just too damn easy, i have several and i dont even use them, their just there



Haha, this is this post in a nut shell

 

"Console owners are all dickheads. Believe it or not, this hobby's about having fun – not raining on other people's parades. Let's not lose sight of that fact. Console owners are all dickheads.

 

Harden the hell up, and deal with the fact that console gaming is required in order for PC gaming to exist outside of facebook.


The way PC games were made was fine back in the day when game development costs were low. Then they started increasing, but game developers were ok because they could make a truckload of cash on consoles. Console games funded your ability to have cutting edge graphics. Now, consoles are getting more expensive to develop for and so the developers can't use them as a source of infinite money anymore. This means that PC developers have to cut costs somewhere or go bankrupt.

 

Lets say you have a rich friend, he gives you $10 every day to buy cool stuff with, then one day he gets robbed, and tells you he can't give you money anymore. The polite person would say "That's ok, infact, I'll try to give a little back if I can" You, however, fly off the handle and blame him because you can't afford the shit you were going to buy with the money he was to give you.



scottie said:

Haha, this is this post in a nut shell

 

"Console owners are all dickheads. Believe it or not, this hobby's about having fun – not raining on other people's parades. Let's not lose sight of that fact. Console owners are all dickheads.

 

Harden the hell up, and deal with the fact that console gaming is required in order for PC gaming to exist outside of facebook.


The way PC games were made was fine back in the day when game development costs were low. Then they started increasing, but game developers were ok because they could make a truckload of cash on consoles. 1# Console games funded your ability to have cutting edge graphics. Now, consoles are getting more expensive to develop for and so the developers can't use them as a source of infinite money anymore. 2# This means that PC developers have to cut costs somewhere or go bankrupt.

 

Lets say you have a rich friend, he gives you $10 every day to buy cool stuff with, then one day he gets robbed, and tells you he can't give you money anymore. The polite person would say "That's ok, infact, I'll try to give a little back if I can" You, however, fly off the handle and blame him because you can't afford the shit you were going to buy with the money he was to give you.

1# what? you have got to be kidding me PC exclusives have pushing the boundaries in graphics since the days of Doom and most of the PC games with truly cutting edge graphics are from PC exclusives or at least have PC as the lead platform (Crysis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., metro 2033 the Witcher 2, Battlefield 3etc) if anything consoles only have the graphics they do because of PC gaming as the GPUs that power the consoles were based on designs developed for the PC and many of the engines and techniques used were pioneered on PC. It is only this generation where PC advancement has slown down that consoles have come anywhere near PC games.

2# The entire industry has to cut costs or go bankrupt TBH as AAA game budgets on all platforms are growing much faster than the audience so only the most successful developers and those payed by platform holders can afford to be exclusive. Yet there are more PC exclusive games being made than console exclusives (overall not AAA) despite not having a big company like Sony of Microsoft paying for development. 

and your last paragraph doesn't make any sense.



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