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TT Makaveli said:
Wagram said:
TT Makaveli said:
Wagram said:

Bayonetta > God of War 3

Played and beat both.


thats opinions...everybody got one...

FF IX >>> FF VIII

played and beat both.

^^


What do those games have to do with this?

It's really starting to become laughable that every time I disagree with someones game preference they always have to involve FF8.

yeah cause people see your avatar and think that is your weak point...or something like that ^^

Well it's not. I don't care what other people think.



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The Game was Fun but overrated

Ninja Gaiden > God of war > Bayonetta



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

lestatdark said:

Father Balder and the Gracious&Glorious fights are the toughest fights in the game IMHO. That's why I was so utterly dissapointed that Jubileus was such an easy final boss fight, heck I platinumed as every stage and attack was pretty obvious and easy to dodge >_<.

Platinum doesn't seem too hard, but I've yet to try nonstop climax mode as that is probably the only true hard trophy to get in the game.

Gracious and Glorious aren't so bad in Infinite Climax, not in the context of the rest of the game.

Jubileus, though. Jubileus graduates from  "interesting but easy" to something more like "JESUS CHRIST SHE HAS SO MUCH HEALTH AND HITS SO HARD AND HAS NO CHECKPOINTS AAAAAHHHHHH"



It's my favorite as well.  The combat was just so fluid and fun and difficult at the same time.  It just sucked me in and the story matched the combat, over the top and ridiculous.  They made a game that didn't take itself seriously.  It was all about the gameplay.  I'm glad I waited to play it after God of War 3 because I would have hated the combat in GOW 3.  To me, the combat is way to simple and seldom died but I died a lot playing Bayonetta. 

It's at the top of my list for my favorite games this generation.



gekkokamen said:
lestatdark said:
brendude13 said:

Haha April fools!

Oh wait, you're serious? I played up to halfway and couldn't understand what the fuss was about. Button mashing has never been my thing, I can't comprehend why other people would like that type of game either but I guess that is just their preference. The game was just non stop button mashing, the game had no real point and never kept me coming back for more. It far too over the top and just seemed silly. If I ever wanted to touch a button masher I would stick to God of War.

The problem is that Bayonetta isn't a button masher, unless you played it on Very Easy or Easy.

I haven't tried those modes though, but on Normal it was anything but a button masher. If anyone can show me a gracious&glorious fight being won with button mashing I will completely agree with you, but I just don't see that being possible. 

Heck, GOW games, even the first one were much more of button mashers than Bayonetta ever was. And I've beaten every GOW game and the Challenge of the Gods/Titans/Olympus in them.

Not true. Bayonetta is all about "witch time", get the hang of the timing and mash away. Climax mode may not have witch time but it makes up for it in other ways. I think Bayonetta is a very good game, but the whole combat system relies solely on timing you witch time and that's the end of it. On the other hand, there aren't many enemies at the same time on screen, not much variety either and they are all very stupid AI.

Yeah but you can't rely on Witch Time much on the later stages, especially since normal enemies start becoming immune to it, even on normal. 

Witch Time is indeed a major support in the combat but I would rather rely on Dodge Cancelling and Moon of Mahna-Kahlia for counters than Witch Time. 

I don't know about that stupid AI. True, enemies like Affinities, Applaud, Ardor and the lower tier enemies are very dumb and straigthforward, but when you start fighting Joys, Graces, Gracious and so on, the AI gets upped quite a notch to "Why the fuck are you two working in tandem, double tagging me and combo stun locking me >_<".

More enemies on screen doesn't equal more difficulty especially when the numbers are counterbalanced by the ease of the battles. I'd rather have fewer, harder enemies than more, easy enemies.



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Khuutra said:
lestatdark said:

Father Balder and the Gracious&Glorious fights are the toughest fights in the game IMHO. That's why I was so utterly dissapointed that Jubileus was such an easy final boss fight, heck I platinumed as every stage and attack was pretty obvious and easy to dodge >_<.

Platinum doesn't seem too hard, but I've yet to try nonstop climax mode as that is probably the only true hard trophy to get in the game.

Gracious and Glorious aren't so bad in Infinite Climax, not in the context of the rest of the game.

Jubileus, though. Jubileus graduates from  "interesting but easy" to something more like "JESUS CHRIST SHE HAS SO MUCH HEALTH AND HITS SO HARD AND HAS NO CHECKPOINTS AAAAAHHHHHH"

This does look interesting XD. 

I was quite dissapointed with how easy she was on Normal. Here you are, fighting such a massive enemy (probably on the scale of the titans of GOW) and the thing barely does anything worthwhile >_>.

Heck even the Cereza-transforming vortices didn't do a thing as you could Bat Within the subsequent punches with ease >_<.



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in terms of combat this gen imo its 

ninja gaiden>bayonnetta>god of war 

but you can't beat god of war's production values and the story was not as terrible as ninja gaiden's and bayonnetta's though still nothing special.



lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Gracious and Glorious aren't so bad in Infinite Climax, not in the context of the rest of the game.

Jubileus, though. Jubileus graduates from  "interesting but easy" to something more like "JESUS CHRIST SHE HAS SO MUCH HEALTH AND HITS SO HARD AND HAS NO CHECKPOINTS AAAAAHHHHHH"

This does look interesting XD. 

I was quite dissapointed with how easy she was on Normal. Here you are, fighting such a massive enemy (probably on the scale of the titans of GOW) and the thing barely does anything worthwhile >_>.

Heck even the Cereza-transforming vortices didn't do a thing as you could Bat Within the subsequent punches with ease >_<.

She also attacks faster.

Her attacks feel harder to dodge.

And at max health she can two-shot you - or very close to it.

Fight her on Infinite CLimax. Just to experiment. See how different the fight becomes.



enrageorange said:

in terms of combat this gen imo its 

ninja gaiden>bayonnetta>god of war 

but you can't beat god of war's production values and the story was not as terrible as ninja gaiden's and bayonnetta's though still nothing special.

I agree in the story tidbit. I really enjoy all the GOW's stories because I'm a sucker for mythologies and the take that GOW makes is interesting. 



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Khuutra said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Gracious and Glorious aren't so bad in Infinite Climax, not in the context of the rest of the game.

Jubileus, though. Jubileus graduates from  "interesting but easy" to something more like "JESUS CHRIST SHE HAS SO MUCH HEALTH AND HITS SO HARD AND HAS NO CHECKPOINTS AAAAAHHHHHH"

This does look interesting XD. 

I was quite dissapointed with how easy she was on Normal. Here you are, fighting such a massive enemy (probably on the scale of the titans of GOW) and the thing barely does anything worthwhile >_>.

Heck even the Cereza-transforming vortices didn't do a thing as you could Bat Within the subsequent punches with ease >_<.

She also attacks faster.

Her attacks feel harder to dodge.

And at max health she can two-shot you - or very close to it.

Fight her on Infinite CLimax. Just to experiment. See how different the fight becomes.

I've got to go through hard beforehand, I will get there eventually. The thought of playing the entire game without using Witch Time is frightening, but exciting at the same time. Gotta brush up on that Bat Within technique and counter techniques XD.



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