Acevil said:
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What's genius is how controversial this subject is, so it generates a lot of interest. Also, a weak 3DS launch would spell the opposite of doom for the NGP, imo. It would spell "w-i-n-n-i-n-g", as Charlie sheen likes to say. lol
| Superman4 said: I think the NGP will do a lot better than everyone expects. The 3DS is a DS in 3D. Big deal. Another gimmick from the gimmick kings. The NGP offers a lot in terms of harware like 3G access and Wi-fi etc and will come to market with a lot of software. |
yea nintendo really dropped the ball on not including wi-fi with the 3ds.
NYANKS said:
What's genius is how controversial this subject is, so it generates a lot of interest. Also, a weak 3DS launch would spell the opposite of doom for the NGP, imo. It would spell "w-i-n-n-i-n-g", as Charlie sheen likes to say. lol |
What I don't understand, it isn't a weak launch? I mean by what standard is this weak? It might not be the strongest, but it is far from a weak launch. I don't necessarily get the whole NGP will do better or worse, because how 3DS did either. Given Sony fans are Nintendo Fans are horrible these days, and Seece is right.
RolStoppable said:
It is weak based on Nintendo's expectations which is what really counts. Their shipment projection for the end of March was four million units worldwide. This assumes a sellthrough of at least 2.5m units, but more realistically around 3m. Add up the numbers we have so far and it's clear that the 3DS won't match the target set for it. Regarding the NGP, handheld generations usually are one to two gens behind home consoles in terms of processing power. What we could learn from the 7th gen consoles' launches is that from a certain point onwards the graphics that appear on screens are perceived as only marginally better even though they are generated by cutting edge technology. The price points for the 360 and PS3 were high and people saw little that would justify a purchase. With the 3DS and NGP we are seeing a comparable situation. Does the better technology in those handhelds justify their higher price points over their predecessors? Most likely not. Both portables will struggle until they've come down in price and build a solid games library. Until then the DS and PSP will keep trucking along, just like the PS2 which still outsold the 360 and PS3 in 2007. |
See, I want to argue rol, but you are rol! I can't win against your awesome skills of using forum posts, to form conclusions that are on par with the ones that get paid to make predictions.
I will say this, we will see in the final quarter results. :P
At my school, everyone is talking about NGP they wanna buy it.
I trust no one, not even myself.
RolStoppable said:
It is weak based on Nintendo's expectations which is what really counts. Their shipment projection for the end of March was four million units worldwide. This assumes a sellthrough of at least 2.5m units, but more realistically around 3m. Add up the numbers we have so far and it's clear that the 3DS won't match the target set for it. Regarding the NGP, handheld generations usually are one to two gens behind home consoles in terms of processing power. What we could learn from the 7th gen consoles' launches is that from a certain point onwards the graphics that appear on screens are perceived as only marginally better even though they are generated by cutting edge technology. The price points for the 360 and PS3 were high and people saw little that would justify a purchase. With the 3DS and NGP we are seeing a comparable situation. Does the better technology in those handhelds justify their higher price points over their predecessors? Most likely not. Both portables will struggle until they've come down in price and build a solid games library. Until then the DS and PSP will keep trucking along, just like the PS2 which still outsold the 360 and PS3 in 2007. |
Wouldn't you think the tsunami would be factoring into that? It's playing havoc with all sorts of stuff...
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
leatherhat said:
Please tell me he didn't actually say that |
Well, he said Angry Birds is as big as Super Mario Brothers. So yeah.
Above: still the best game of the year.
Everything Rol/Kramer is saying here is dead-on accurate. Despite the fact that this is April 1st.
Just remember all the people that are predicting this stuff beforehand, and when it plays out this way, then re-evaluate your perception on how consoles fail or succeed.
3DS will become market leader, but will sell MUCH less than DS. NGP will be a significant player, but will sell MUCH less than PSP. If the current gen systems sell 180m and 80m, maybe the next gen ones will sell 100m and 50m. Roughly speaking, it will be that kind of a decrease.
And this will NOT be because of tablets/smartphones. Tablets, smartphones and Facebook will NOT develop to replace games-first devices and platforms, even though many analysts will claim that this is what is occurring. Instead, 3DS and NGP will fail on their own merit.
Maybe what would be best for Nintendo is if NGP comes out for $175 with Gran Turismo and Monster Hunter at launch, plus a response to Brain Training bundled with the system, and goes on to crush 3DS. Then Nintendo would have to regroup and come back with a true successor to DS instead of a handheld successor to N64. (Hint: this won't happen.)
"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."
Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.
noname2200 said:
Then why did the 3DS already get outsold by the PSP of all things? Think about it; the PSP continues to be supply constrained, while the 3DS is not. In fact, the 3DS in Japan sits at roughly half of what Nintendo claimed it would sell this month. Half! It's going down, fast.
Of course it's serious. The facts are undeniable, for starters. So do you agree or disagree? |
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