Ok Soriku... it's not going to happen. The Gran Turismo team has NEVER, EVER hit a release date the first time around. They say Christmas 08, so expect it to come out in Fall of 09 and even then the game will be rushed and missing features like all the rest in the series. GT4 lost it's online, GT3 lost it's new tracks, GT2 was shipped with huge game stopping bugs which Sony even knew about and GT1... well no one knew anything about it before it got released but it also missed it's release date. Every one of the games missed their release date except for GT3, but they cut the game down and basically re-released GT2 for the PS2 but called it GT3... bastards... anyway that's my rant as a GT fan.

I love the Gran Tourismo games but they always take themselves far to serious. Imagine a track set on the moon with low gravity! and seeing the earth in the background. :p

Also I hope they're working on the AI because its usually terrible :S

Didn't we already know it was X-mas next year. I mean that's why i've been putting it on my "Very likely to be in 2009 in reality" list.

Not that it really matters. I don't get regular racing games.

I mean... they are fun and all... but I haven't seen a normal racing game that has really improved on "Pole Position" for the Atari fun wise.

# Damage model is still around, but probably with compromises due to agreements with manufacturers
# Some manufacturers prohibit damage models for their vehicles, so at the end some vehicles will not have damage models

If this really is true than Polyphony should just remove it completely. All or nothing I say, it'd be silly to have some cars fully smashable but others to do the age old GT tradition of riding around corners off walls like magnets.

I hate to say it but unless theres damage, it'll just be GT4 with more cars, more tracks, better graphics.

if they don't include damage, they should at least make it so you can't ride around corners and if you try to you will hit a wall hard and come to a complete stop. They should make tracks so you can't take shortcuts over a patch of grass either, stuff like that is cheap.

I expect LBP, KZ2, and GT5 to come out in 2009, along with FFXIII.

so............... ps3 domination is in 2009 now?

no, it has already started...

Bitchslaps Lost tears of Kain, Soriku and tombi123.

I believe that those three will come out 2008. I predicted in 2006 that GT5 would come out Q3 hope not they delay it more. I dont understand why it is taking so long time these games have been in development for a very long time except LBP.

Cool, so he just said something bad about the Xbox 360 and said that he delayed gran turmso 5 as well as said that it will take a full year to release another track..

that sucks.