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Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

Piracy hasn't killed the PSP, DS, PS2, PS1, Wii, 360, etc... and now all of a sudden the PS3 is hacked and everything is going fucking apeshit.

Taht doesnt mean that piracy is ok nor does it mean that Sony should not fight it with all their might, they have all the right too.

you can try to justify piracy all you want but its still stealing. And Sony should and has every right to try to foight anything that couls lead to piracy, whcih includes protecting the ps3 from hackers.

Alright, alright.

 

Let's remove .avi support, it is the most used file type for movie torrents.

Let's remove media server because even if we don't have .MKV support, we could still stream it from PCs that do have support.

Let's remove .mp3 support because well, .mp3 are heavily pirated.

Let's remove game sharing, because you know what, me letting you and 3-4 others download my stuff is just as bad as me making a copy of my stuff and letting you download it.

 

The list can go on, but the fact is that my point isn't about saying that piracy doesn't have a lot of negatives. I am arguing that just because something can be used for piracy isn't necessarily a reason to get rid of it or not support it all together because if so then we wouldn't have many of the features we enjoy on our consoles.

Irrelevant, the PS3 you buy in stores today has everything it needs to function as a PS3 and you cant pirate games on as it is, the only thing taht could possiby enable that is hackers.

Anything that hakers do WILL IN SOME WAY LEAD TO PIRACY, and is also UNNECESARY, the PS3 DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING THE HAKERS have to offer, absolutely none of it, its fine as it out of the store.

Since the PS3 needs nothing atht hakers are offwering THE ONLY THING taht concerns and should concern Sony in relation to the hakers is the potential for piracy, therefore Sony should do everything in its power to crush them utterly.

You want hombre then go buy a PC or an Xbox (microsoft doesnt care).



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hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

Piracy hasn't killed the PSP, DS, PS2, PS1, Wii, 360, etc... and now all of a sudden the PS3 is hacked and everything is going fucking apeshit.

Taht doesnt mean that piracy is ok nor does it mean that Sony should not fight it with all their might, they have all the right too.

you can try to justify piracy all you want but its still stealing. And Sony should and has every right to try to foight anything that couls lead to piracy, whcih includes protecting the ps3 from hackers.

Alright, alright.

 

Let's remove .avi support, it is the most used file type for movie torrents.

Let's remove media server because even if we don't have .MKV support, we could still stream it from PCs that do have support.

Let's remove .mp3 support because well, .mp3 are heavily pirated.

Let's remove game sharing, because you know what, me letting you and 3-4 others download my stuff is just as bad as me making a copy of my stuff and letting you download it.

 

The list can go on, but the fact is that my point isn't about saying that piracy doesn't have a lot of negatives. I am arguing that just because something can be used for piracy isn't necessarily a reason to get rid of it or not support it all together because if so then we wouldn't have many of the features we enjoy on our consoles.

You want hombre then go buy a PC or an Xbox (microsoft doesnt care).


LOL, hehehe



hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

Piracy hasn't killed the PSP, DS, PS2, PS1, Wii, 360, etc... and now all of a sudden the PS3 is hacked and everything is going fucking apeshit.

Taht doesnt mean that piracy is ok nor does it mean that Sony should not fight it with all their might, they have all the right too.

you can try to justify piracy all you want but its still stealing. And Sony should and has every right to try to foight anything that couls lead to piracy, whcih includes protecting the ps3 from hackers.

Alright, alright.

 

Let's remove .avi support, it is the most used file type for movie torrents.

Let's remove media server because even if we don't have .MKV support, we could still stream it from PCs that do have support.

Let's remove .mp3 support because well, .mp3 are heavily pirated.

Let's remove game sharing, because you know what, me letting you and 3-4 others download my stuff is just as bad as me making a copy of my stuff and letting you download it.

 

The list can go on, but the fact is that my point isn't about saying that piracy doesn't have a lot of negatives. I am arguing that just because something can be used for piracy isn't necessarily a reason to get rid of it or not support it all together because if so then we wouldn't have many of the features we enjoy on our consoles.

Irrelevant, the PS3 you buy in stores today has everything it needs to function as a PS3 and you cant pirate games on as it is, the only thing taht could possiby enable that is hackers.

Anything that hakers do WILL IN SOME WAY LEAD TO PIRACY, and is also UNNECESARY, the PS3 DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING THE HAKERS have to offer, absolutely none of it, its fine as it out of the store.

Since the PS3 needs nothing atht hakers are offwering THE ONLY THING taht concerns and should concern Sony in relation to the hakers is the potential for piracy, therefore Sony should do everything in its power to crush them utterly.

You want hombre then go buy a PC or an Xbox (microsoft doesnt care).


You should relax.

Also I absolutely agree with you that hackers bring us nothing, just look at the history of how PSP got majority of the features people enjoy, including Web Browsing, proper movie file support, internet radio, etc... 

 

Like I said before, it pays to do your research before going on about things you display knowing very little about. That includes accusing me of things, which is funny because I even mentioned in this thread that it happens everytime I speak on the subject.

People quickly label me as a piracy supporter because I support homebrew. Completely ignoring the fact that one =/= the other, no matter how hard you guys try to argue.

 

I am the guy who fights on your side believe it or not, yet instead you guys attack me. It's quite upsetting yet expected in the gaming community. The fans in the gaming community are incredibly loyal to their companies of choice.

 

Also, something isn't irrelevant just because you feel it is. Always remember the fact there is another side of supporters and to them it is in fact very relevent. Just because your view differs doesn't make theirs invalid.

 

 

Also, just so you know, the PC probably doesn't care too much because it is actually growing.

Holy shit, imagine that!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108123-PC-Game-Industry-Shows-Big-Growth-in-2010



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KylieDog said:
Euphoria14 said:

@Kyliedog

That means what? Do you know that most movie torrents are .avi files?

I guess SONY should pull support for those file types too huh?


What a weak defence.  .avi is used for many things.  .mkv is used in piracy and pretty much only that.

How is it weak? Weak because you say it is used mainly for piracy in movies?

Does not negate the fact that .avi is as well, if not more so for the same purpose.

 

Also, like I said, PS3 having Media server enables access to it anyways.

 

Also .mkv wasn't originally made popular because of piracy, but because it enabled Anime fans to enter subtitles into their movies, as well as chapters, etc... much like a DVD.

I do not see how your argument for why it isn't enabled holds water. Yeah you claim that it is mostly for piracy, but then what is the reasoning for allowing Divx, Avi, etc...? If .mkv isn't allowed you think that stops the pirates?

Hell,  the PS3 even allows for .mp4 files dude. That shit is hella popular in the mobile scene for pirating.

 

To put it simply, you can make arguments for why .avi is useful and you can make argument for why .mkv is useful.

You can make arguments for why .mkv is bad and you can make arguments for why .avi is bad.

 

In other words, my defense wasn't weak. In fact, your argument is weak. If we take your point of view on most things then Sony should just disable the ability to playback all media types, especially .mp3 since it is used mainly for piracy. Has been since the early days of Napster.

No more custom soundtracks during some of our games. To me it would suck, but you know what, it would be great. Sony just going on fighting the good fight am I right?



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Euphoria14 said:
twesterm said:

It's not that we think all homebrew is bad and leads to piracy, it's just that most (not all) people that say they do something only for homebrew are talking out their ass.


So everyone should turn threads like this into arguments because they assume that most people who say do it for homebrew could be lying?

Sounds about right because that is usually what I experience here whenever I speak about homebrew and claim that I use it on my Wii, DS and PSP.

It is possible to have alternate discussions on the subject too you know instead of people quickly just grabbing their pitchforks and torches and going after the topic creators or the topic of discussion. You do also realize that most (not all) people who attack homebrew are completely ignorant about the thing they are trying to attack?

The Android phone OS easily shows why the homebrew scene is so great. Many of those people do not support it for piracy, because quite frankly it is not required seeing as how Android gives the option of "Install non-market apps". Check the new Amazon app store to see what I mean, "Install non-market apps" is required to install what you purchase from there.

Some phones, like my Captivate for example, are known to have some pretty shitty support from the hardware manufacturer and the scene is what makes the phone actually quite great.

 

@Kyliedog

That means what? Do you know that most movie torrents are .avi files?

I guess SONY should pull support for those file types too huh?

Meh, I'm just responding to the thread title.  I actually care very little of what DamnYouAll has to say and generally make it a point to skip over his posts.  I probably would not have clicked the thread if I had noticed it was made by him.

I actually completely agree that great things can come from the homebrew community, Hell, just look at the Kinect, but when it comes to people saying they only modded their console for the homebrew, chances are they're lying through their teeth.

And if anything, you're at least one of the few people who I think are honest about what they do with homebrew.



twesterm said:
Euphoria14 said:
twesterm said:

It's not that we think all homebrew is bad and leads to piracy, it's just that most (not all) people that say they do something only for homebrew are talking out their ass.


So everyone should turn threads like this into arguments because they assume that most people who say do it for homebrew could be lying?

Sounds about right because that is usually what I experience here whenever I speak about homebrew and claim that I use it on my Wii, DS and PSP.

It is possible to have alternate discussions on the subject too you know instead of people quickly just grabbing their pitchforks and torches and going after the topic creators or the topic of discussion. You do also realize that most (not all) people who attack homebrew are completely ignorant about the thing they are trying to attack?

The Android phone OS easily shows why the homebrew scene is so great. Many of those people do not support it for piracy, because quite frankly it is not required seeing as how Android gives the option of "Install non-market apps". Check the new Amazon app store to see what I mean, "Install non-market apps" is required to install what you purchase from there.

Some phones, like my Captivate for example, are known to have some pretty shitty support from the hardware manufacturer and the scene is what makes the phone actually quite great.

 

@Kyliedog

That means what? Do you know that most movie torrents are .avi files?

I guess SONY should pull support for those file types too huh?

Meh, I'm just responding to the thread title.  I actually care very little of what DamnYouAll has to say and generally make it a point to skip over his posts.  I probably would not have clicked the thread if I had noticed it was made by him.

I actually completely agree that great things can come from the homebrew community, Hell, just look at the Kinect, but when it comes to people saying they only modded their console for the homebrew, chances are they're lying through their teeth.

And if anything, you're at least one of the few people who I think are honest about what they do with homebrew.

Thanks.

I also agree with you about the community and the Kinect. There are some awesome things being done with it by the community and I am happy that Microsoft supports it as much as they do.



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Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

Piracy hasn't killed the PSP, DS, PS2, PS1, Wii, 360, etc... and now all of a sudden the PS3 is hacked and everything is going fucking apeshit.

Taht doesnt mean that piracy is ok nor does it mean that Sony should not fight it with all their might, they have all the right too.

you can try to justify piracy all you want but its still stealing. And Sony should and has every right to try to foight anything that couls lead to piracy, whcih includes protecting the ps3 from hackers.

Alright, alright.

 

Let's remove .avi support, it is the most used file type for movie torrents.

Let's remove media server because even if we don't have .MKV support, we could still stream it from PCs that do have support.

Let's remove .mp3 support because well, .mp3 are heavily pirated.

Let's remove game sharing, because you know what, me letting you and 3-4 others download my stuff is just as bad as me making a copy of my stuff and letting you download it.

 

The list can go on, but the fact is that my point isn't about saying that piracy doesn't have a lot of negatives. I am arguing that just because something can be used for piracy isn't necessarily a reason to get rid of it or not support it all together because if so then we wouldn't have many of the features we enjoy on our consoles.

Irrelevant, the PS3 you buy in stores today has everything it needs to function as a PS3 and you cant pirate games on as it is, the only thing taht could possiby enable that is hackers.

Anything that hakers do WILL IN SOME WAY LEAD TO PIRACY, and is also UNNECESARY, the PS3 DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING THE HAKERS have to offer, absolutely none of it, its fine as it out of the store.

Since the PS3 needs nothing atht hakers are offwering THE ONLY THING taht concerns and should concern Sony in relation to the hakers is the potential for piracy, therefore Sony should do everything in its power to crush them utterly.

You want hombre then go buy a PC or an Xbox (microsoft doesnt care).


1) You should relax.

Also I absolutely agree with you that hackers bring us nothing, just look at the history of how PSP got majority of the features people enjoy, including Web Browsing, proper movie file support, internet radio, etc... 

2) People quickly label me as a piracy supporter because I support homebrew. Completely ignoring the fact that one =/= the other, no matter how hard you guys try to argue.

3) Also, just so you know, the PC probably doesn't care too much because it is actually growing.

Holy shit, imagine that!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108123-PC-Game-Industry-Shows-Big-Growth-in-2010


1) PS3 needs none of tha, movie file support?, internet radio?, web browser?, have you ever heard of a computer?. People wanting web browsers is not worth the PS3's security and the potential for piracy taht comes from taht, which is what happened with the PSP, massive piracy, and guess what, id bet Sony would rather have no piracy even if it means none of that stuff taht you can get a computer for (your precious internet radio and web browser).

2) wherever there is homebrew piracy will follow and will be much greater (just like with PSP), it doesnt matter who you support, if your side wins (homebrew) then piracy also wins (just like on the PSP), therefore as far as im concerned your on the pirates side (if your side wins the pirates win).

3) You haker guys should get one of those PC for your internet radio and leave the PS3 out of it.



hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

1) You should relax.

Also I absolutely agree with you that hackers bring us nothing, just look at the history of how PSP got majority of the features people enjoy, including Web Browsing, proper movie file support, internet radio, etc... 

2) People quickly label me as a piracy supporter because I support homebrew. Completely ignoring the fact that one =/= the other, no matter how hard you guys try to argue.

3) Also, just so you know, the PC probably doesn't care too much because it is actually growing.

Holy shit, imagine that!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108123-PC-Game-Industry-Shows-Big-Growth-in-2010


1) PS3 needs none of tha, movie file support?, internet radio?, web browser?, have you ever heard of a computer?. People wanting web browsers is not worth the PS3's security and the potential for piracy taht comes from taht.

2) wherever there is homebrew piracy will follow, it doesnt matter who you support, if your side wins (homebrew) then piracy also wins, therefore as far as imconcerned yoyur on the pirates side (if your side wins the pirates win).

3) You haker guys should get one of those for your internet radio and leave the PS3 out of it.

As expected, you made false assumptions again and in no way rebutted my argument.

Good day to you sir.



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Euphoria14 said:
hehey said:
Euphoria14 said:

1) You should relax.

Also I absolutely agree with you that hackers bring us nothing, just look at the history of how PSP got majority of the features people enjoy, including Web Browsing, proper movie file support, internet radio, etc... 

2) People quickly label me as a piracy supporter because I support homebrew. Completely ignoring the fact that one =/= the other, no matter how hard you guys try to argue.

3) Also, just so you know, the PC probably doesn't care too much because it is actually growing.

Holy shit, imagine that!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108123-PC-Game-Industry-Shows-Big-Growth-in-2010


1) PS3 needs none of tha, movie file support?, internet radio?, web browser?, have you ever heard of a computer?. People wanting web browsers is not worth the PS3's security and the potential for piracy taht comes from taht.

2) wherever there is homebrew piracy will follow, it doesnt matter who you support, if your side wins (homebrew) then piracy also wins, therefore as far as imconcerned yoyur on the pirates side (if your side wins the pirates win).

3) You haker guys should get one of those for your internet radio and leave the PS3 out of it.

As expected, you made false assumptions again and in no way rebutted my argument.

Good day to you sir.

100% fact. look at the PSP, all that "Internet web browsers" and "movie file support" and"internet radio" pale incomparison to the rampant piracy that it has to endure. And no, all taht crap that you can get a computer for is in no way worth all the negatives, the PSP DIS NOT NEEED ANY OF THIS (get a computer dude). 

You cannot have homebrew without piracy, if the hombrew gusy win then piracy also wins, 100% fact.

Its only a false assumption if you live in a fantasy world.