good_boy said:
RolStoppable said:
good_boy said:
Great response. I appreciate it!
If you look at my response, I said I hate Nintendo(used to like it before), not the wii overall. My friends enjoy wii games, and since we have similar taste, I'm pretty sure that if I had a wii, I'll enjoy them as well.
I didn't say I get angry because Nintendo makes money, I just said that I hate Nintendo because they are now an arrogant company, they always have aimed for great prices and still they have profits, people look to Nintendo for making affordable fun accessible consoles, how much was the gameboy? 100$ how much was the gbc? 100$ or less how much was the DS? 150$ no need to say it but still, the gamecube was the first console of that gen. to drop below 100$ All of that because Nintendo is to be a humble company. Nintendo's changed. They have become arrogant. Nintendo even killed their Player's choice program. Nintendo games are still 50$ and some of them are already 4 1/2 years old...zelda tp, Metroid Prime 3 i believe. Where's the respect for the consumer? What about people who can't afford a 50$ game and prefer to wait for a price drop? Screw microsoft, sony and other companies who overprices their products when they launch a new product. I wasn't bashing 3DS and its games, just nintendo and the price of the 3DS.
Then you bring in microsoft when this is about handhelds, it's a different market. It's no brainer that Nintendo has a lot of support when it comes to handhelds but when we talk about homeconsoles, support sucks.
When it comes to Kinect, there's no bias. You looked in fact extremely bias when I said Kinect and you may have thought that I wasn't serious and you just drop me 2 lines. You probably know everyone was mocking Kinect before launch and now that we have seen that Microsoft and developers can do, we can expect something good things when it comes to hardcore games. Microsoft is getting a lot of effort from 3rd party developers, something Nintendo has lost on the wii. I'm not saying either that they will be good, they could suck, we don't know and we can't say anything yet but you can't really be negative at Kinect when it has been proven it can do a lot of things.
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Charging prices you think the market will pay isn't a sign of arrogance. If the market isn't willing to pay that price and then the company blames the consumers, that is arrogance. In a similar way, a lot of games retail for a higher price than people are actually willing to pay, but that doesn't mean that the companies who published these titles are arrogant per se. If they think or hope that people pay that much for their product, then that's fine. If the price is too high, then it has to come down sooner or later anyway.
Regarding the end of Player's Choice, that really isn't all that bad for people who can't afford $50 games. In today's world it's easy to have access to the used games market, ebay or similar things. If you want games for cheap, there's a way. If you can't find Nintendo games for cheap (not even used), then that's because the market considers those titles of higher value than most other games.
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Then what? Greedy? Money-hungry? You once again ignored what I said, I'll repeat myself: This IS Nintendo, in Nintendo's history, people look to Nintendo for making affordable fun accessible consoles, you are looking t what other companies do, not Nintendo. Be specific, Nintendo only, not what others do. Look at what Nintendo used to do and compare it to what it does now. You seem extremely bias, just look at what you bring in, the used market. Used market has always been there, it's not something of today's world, people go to any game retailer and get an used or new game, it's not something that was created when Nintendo launched the Nintendo Wii and decided to end the Player's choice line. There's also people know that buying new games will support the people who make those games because they like them and would like to see more of them or new things, they get them at full price or wait for a price drop or the player's choice line(platinum and GH for MS and Sony respectively) . If not, no one would be buying new stuff(games, consoles, accessories, etc.) to begin with. 3DS is not different, repeating myself, look at Nintendo history, their consoles has always been cheap, to be more specific, their handhelds, they have sold millions, have gotten a lot of profits and selling at affordable prices. But that has changed, Iwata stated that they are charging a lot for the 3DS because they can, because people would pay for that price. Good reason or not, looking back at the past, they have always have been selling millions of handhelds and getting a lot of profit. After many years of that, there's no really reason to change that. There's no point in charging more when you know you have always been good in that. Did Nintendo change? Yes. What could the reason be? Greediness.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I removed the kinect part for a little less scrolling and because there's no reason to talk about that, it's better to wait and see.
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