the entire point of GT is to recreate the driving experience of vehicles. Racing is not the point. You drive while racing, yes. But instead of focusing in the racing, the vehicles are the main focus, hence why GT5 has so many cars. Polyphony would rather you buy the expensive Ferrari and run around various practive tracks figuring out how it handles and make you feel like your driving it than racing around the track hitting and bumping every other car like an idiot.

Forza 4 will look better but not 10 times better. That makes me feel this is just a rumour. For the game too look 10 times better it needs to have a resolution of 7200p.

Or 10 times the no. of polygons which also seems impossible.

The only thing I want is 1080p or at least 1280x1080. The extra vertical lines really make a difference for racing games especially if you use in car view.

How is the forza 3 online community? I skipped 3 after my bad experience with forza 2. I was late to get into the online and by then every race had people ruining it for everyone else. You can tune your car for cornering all you want but to no use when there are people pushing you of the road in the corner or using the pit maneuver on you on the straights. (I'm glad gt5 car collisions are unrealistic enough that the pit maneuver doesn't work) Damage did not help one bit, the victim is usually way worse of. Not to mention every other race had an idiot racing in the opposite direction.

If Forza 4 online is good and pgr5 is announced I'll get gold again. (don't care about shooters online)

It's a popular technique used by police to turn cars around whereby they tap the back quarter of the car they're chasing with their own to spin it out.

Skip to 1:20 to see it.

Mario Kart Wii is the best selling racing game of this gen. You don't need to resort to hyperbole, if the other guy doesn't even get a basic fact straight.

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I just got finished a 5 hour tuning session with the GT40 to maximize it's performance tested it on about every single track under almost all conditions, I'm still not done.

on that note, when GT5 does get down to the actual profession racing Le Mans, Super GT, Nascar, Touring Car Series, etc. it's much better than what's provided in Forza 3 imo, but that's like 20% of the actual GT experience, and not the focus of it by any stretch. I am looking forward to what they will do in Forza 4 though

I have to admit Killzone stole the Sci fi Fps crown from Halo. WTF no it didn't. GT5 has double the amount of cars that Forza has

More cars doesn't mean a better game. And when you have 14 different iterations of one car I don't count that as 14 cars.  A skyline is a skyline. A supra is a supra.