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thats whats gonna make ps3's keep selling long after 360 and wii are dead.

a lot of people will pick the ps3 over a dedicated blu-ray player.

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Nah it was a bad move by them...good move for me though.

if it was just about blu-ray, they could have won that market just by buying off companies far far far cheaper then the losses on the ps3.  All they had to do was beat HD-DVD.

Ask yourself, do you think companies that didn't use blu-ray were hurt by not having blu-ray?

Sure there's that, but by Including the Blu-ray in the PS3, some people purchased for just the games and not the Blu-ray funtion. Then some of those people later on decided to use it as a Blu-ray player when some of their favorite movies came out since they already have a Blu-ray player.  This was Sony's Trojan Horse for getting Blu-ray into more consumer's houses.

Why?  I can get a blu-ray player from Amazon for under a hundred bucks and by the time the PS3 is that cheap blu-ray players will be even cheaper.  The majority of people aren't going to fork a couple hundred bucks more to get a system that plays games because they will never use that feature.  People used to get a PS3 because it was the cheapest option, not anymore.

well that hundred dollar player (which i doubt costs $100, it probable around 130) wont be 3d, wont have netflix, vudoo, mlb network, nhl network, stream movies, have a movie online store, and many more features, nor will it have as good of picture or sound quality. the only bluray player that youll find better than the ps3, is one that is twice the cost, and then it still doesnt play games

I think you forget people are looking for a cheap movie player not a movie player plus for more money. Also a blu ray player that can play as clear as the ps3 is not twice as expensive, its cheaper. thats why they are saying why bother with a ps3. It used to be cheaper to get s ps3 than a good blu ray player but that is no longer the case.