I did buy a PS3 over 360 because of the Blu-ray. I wanted to see our wedding recording on Blu-ray :)

Also in addition to Blu-ray, PS3 is also acting as Trojan horse for 3D. That's an added incentive and return for Sony.

actually no, cnet.com just recently switch from using the ps3 as their test bluray player, because the $500 Oppo player, just past it up in picture quality. ps3 has the second best picture quality.

but your point still remains, people will likely not choose the ps3 over a cheaper one, especially becasue it seems like the ps3 is never advertised as a bluray player, and when you go to places like amazon.com the ps3 isnt even listed in the bluray section, only under games.

so people would have to preemptively know that the ps3 is a bluray player, because no store has it listed, or in the section of bluray players

normal people won't buy a PS3 just to play movies,too complicated

they shoukd make a fully BC ps3 later at a good price that should keep sales chugging along for people interested in the PS family lineup alongside whatever they release next

Yeah, I could never see the point in having a DVD collection, but, even though some say there isn't much difference, Bluray has me more excited than I've ever been about starting a collection. I periodically buy nature documentaries on BD, and I watch them over and over and over simply because its SO beautiful.

I hope BD sales go from strength to strength.

Yep, this makes LG so ungrateful!   

What did I type that made you mention the 360?  I'm talking about PS3 vs. standalone blu-ray player.

Since we are giving random information, the shark in my avatar was caught in the causeway in Pascagoula Mississippi on a dead croaker I chopped up on 17 lb test line on a spinning real. 

I do not think they benefitted as much as they thought and I also do not think Blu Ray is being adopted quickly enough. 

For me the real problems for Blu Ray is that simple fact that unlike VHS to DVD, DVD to HD is just not a big enough leap. Couple that with instant HD and HD downloads and you have further competition. Another issue is the premuim being charged for it, I can get instant HD or I can download it and 3D shite but I resent paying this premium.

I think PS3 owners benefitted the most especially those who bought a few years into the cycle, they get HD for free effectively although they still pay the premium for the movies.

In 15 years, there's a chance that we will look back and think this strategy paid off but it's unlikely. Sony screwed up, end of story. That doesn't mean the console is bad or that you can own one and enjoy it but they screwed up from a business standpoint by forfeiting their Playstation dominance in favor of a physical media when physical media is slowly dying.

We as consumers won out on the deal, though. Especially those who bought in later when the PS3 was $3-400. We get a great BD player built into a solid gaming console at a fair price.

When you look around and see companies like Apple completely ignoring the existence of Blu-Ray and selling more and more Macs every year while the rest of the computer industry stagnates, you realize just how few people really care about Blu-Ray. And Macs aren't juse expensive computers, they're top of the line equipment. And even the people dropping $2k on a friggin' laptop don't give a shit about Blu-Ray tech! The average consumer gives slightly more of a shit about Blu-Ray than they do about completely ignored tech like 3D televisions (not coincidentally, these two techs are tied at the hip).

In an age where I can go buy a high definition movie digitally from 50 different sources or I can just go pirate the damned thing if I really want to be a bastard, physical media is never going to come close to the dominance it saw during the CD and DVD eras.

I don't think anyone expected digital movies to make such huge progress, especially not Sony. When companies like netflix can spend $100 million on their own series for digital distribution, then you know the model has changed significantly. Netflix isn't making that money from renting blu-ray discs, that's for sure. Amazon and Netflix don't see their future in blu-ray. That should tell you something.

I was looking for a console. And I bought that console rather than another because it had the player.

Btw, you changed to discussion on player after the earlier post was discussing consoles.