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What Religion Do You Follow?

Islam 15 7.89%
 
Christianity 50 26.32%
 
Hinduism 2 1.05%
 
Sikhism 1 0.53%
 
Buddhism 2 1.05%
 
I don't follow a religion 120 63.16%
 
Total:190
Kantor said:

Since we've moved on to talking about meat eating, the reasons I eat meat:

  • It tastes delicious. Call me a savage, I don't care.
  • It's high in protein and iron, and the latter especially is hard to find in vegetarian food.
  • It can often be troublesome to find tasty vegetarian food (not that none exists).
  • Eating vegetarian food is still killing living organisms, and everyone seems fine with that.
  • We have worked our way to the top of the food chain by evolution, and we have the biological right to do what we like with our position.
  • Animals have no real conscious thought or fear of death.
  • If there's a lovely plate of roast beef lying on a large plate, not taking that beef is not going to bring the cow back to life. The same is true for raw pork fillet lying in the kitchen of a restaurant.

Yes but us as humans eating meat is causing the deaths of the animals. If we stop eating meat then the animals won't need  to be killed but like i said i eat meat and i am not against eating meat, apart from meat derived from pigs (because im a muslim) and meat that is not halal.



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pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

I wouldnt be so sure about that, especially with our great religion increasing in China

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128546334

China accepting christianity to some level would be amazing. Not only would atheism become much weaker in the world but it would also start the spreading of our religion in the far east and Asian continent overall, something our forfathers werent able to do before.

One can hope...

First of all, the majority of the Chinese aren't atheists (only about 14-15% of them are), they're Buddhists or Taoists.

Second of all, most of that part of Asia was colonised by Europeans. If they couldn't convert them by now, they ain't gonna (and you can ber sure that the muslims ain't gonna convert).

Third of all, Christianity is one of the worse things that could happen to China. The last thing they need is a radical religious sect ruining their developing country and halting their progress.

(and in the West, thanks to secularism, atheists have nothing to worry about ).

(Oh, and all reliable sources indicate that Islam is by far the fastest growing religion in the world. Even an organisation such as the World Christian Database says so).


I didnt excpect another kind of response from you...

First of all, majority of chinese are atheist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China#Statistics      

Second, countries like China, japan, Thailand and Mongolia werent colonised by europeans (at least not most of them), and I wasnt talking about middle easter muslim countries, but about the countries in the far east.

Another random insult, which if I wrote, zexen would ban me in a second because of ''religious intolerance'' but that only applies if a non-christian belief is insulted, but whatever. You just keep living up to those stereotypes.

And Islam is spreading due to big birth rates in families, but Christianity is spreading aong whole nations and continents, which is a long-term advantige over Islam.

First of all, the majority of the Chinese are Agnostics or non-religious, which is not the same as Atheists. Read your own links. It says that only 10-14% are atheists.

Second of all, you're the one accusing me of random insults? Read the part I bolded. You insulted atheists, and professed your desire for your kind to wipe out every other belief system from Asia. Those forefathers you talked about killed millions, profitted of people's ignorance, and destroyed entire civilizations (much more civilized then they were), all in the name, to spread your religion. Christians are responsable for one of the most violent and bloody revolutions in China, and they had similar movements in Japan also. Your post just proved how intolerant and opressive your religion is. And you people have the nerve to ciricise muslims extremists for their Jihad, when you're no better then they are.

How about losing the world domination fantasies? Maybe then people will stop disliking your religion so much. There's a reason why people pick on Christianity so much after all.



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spdk1 said:
sapphi_snake said:
spdk1 said:

I practice Gnosticism, I used to be Catholic, but had a HUGE falling out with it and orthodox Christianity in general.

Sounds liek a juicy story. Care to share?

 

(I'm typing this out on my phone, sorry for any bad spelling and grammar)

 

As long as folks don't flame me, as the last time I posted something about my faith:


When my Dad died we had taken a scholoarship out in his name as he was an adjunct intructor at the college he graduated from with a master's degree, as air traffic control professors are hard to come by.  We found out that the church we USED to go to some ten years prior had listed a "collection" under his name to help build an addition to the church or some crap.  Thing is that we had moved around the same time i went through Cathecuminate (sp?) so we're talking 1993, My dad died in 2003.....for a decade we weren't part of this church... 

we confronted the father, a man that we used to trust, and he basically said "it's out of my hands".  This then led us to the Kansas City Bishop who basically said "the church does need the money".  This re-affirmed everything I had believed to be wrong about the church, and it put me in a spiritual crisis.  I found out about how the bible was constructed and the opression of the Gnostics "way back in the day" and it led me to this.  basically put, If God has men that do work in his name act like this, he is no God of mine.     

Couldn't you sue the Church?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
spdk1 said:
sapphi_snake said:
spdk1 said:

I practice Gnosticism, I used to be Catholic, but had a HUGE falling out with it and orthodox Christianity in general.

Sounds liek a juicy story. Care to share?

 

(I'm typing this out on my phone, sorry for any bad spelling and grammar)

 

As long as folks don't flame me, as the last time I posted something about my faith:


When my Dad died we had taken a scholoarship out in his name as he was an adjunct intructor at the college he graduated from with a master's degree, as air traffic control professors are hard to come by.  We found out that the church we USED to go to some ten years prior had listed a "collection" under his name to help build an addition to the church or some crap.  Thing is that we had moved around the same time i went through Cathecuminate (sp?) so we're talking 1993, My dad died in 2003.....for a decade we weren't part of this church... 

we confronted the father, a man that we used to trust, and he basically said "it's out of my hands".  This then led us to the Kansas City Bishop who basically said "the church does need the money".  This re-affirmed everything I had believed to be wrong about the church, and it put me in a spiritual crisis.  I found out about how the bible was constructed and the opression of the Gnostics "way back in the day" and it led me to this.  basically put, If God has men that do work in his name act like this, he is no God of mine.     

Couldn't you sue the Church?

with how much money they have, it would be futile.  we felt it better just to let it be, and let those money grubbers have their way sadly.  Plus the cash collected wouldn't have amounted to enough to really warrant it, we wanted to add to the scholarship, not pay off legal bills.  we just severed ties with it completely and asked them to remove his name from the collection.



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Roman Catholic til the day I die.  2,000 years an counting:

"Who except God can give you peace? Has the world ever been able to satisfy the heart?"
-- St. Gerard Majella

G. K. Chesterton:

“The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man.”

“Most modern freedom is at root fear. It is not so much that we are too bold to endure rules; it is rather that we are too timid to endure responsibilities.”

“It is still bad taste to be an avowed atheist. But now it is equally bad taste to be an avowed Christian.”

“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.”



john1513 said:

Roman Catholic til the day I die.  2,000 years an counting:

"Who except God can give you peace? Has the world ever been able to satisfy the heart?"
-- St. Gerard Majella

G. K. Chesterton:

“The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man.”

“Most modern freedom is at root fear. It is not so much that we are too bold to endure rules; it is rather that we are too timid to endure responsibilities.”

“It is still bad taste to be an avowed atheist. But now it is equally bad taste to be an avowed Christian.”

“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.”

Ah, quotes. At lest they're not from the Bible.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Dr.Grass said:
pacman91 said:

i follow Jesus Christ and everything that is written in the holy bible.

I guarantee that you don't.

From my knowledge and my experience I am confident the bible is cohesive and consistent when viewed in context.

I can guarantee at the very least you do not follow moral relativism. It is an impossible, self-refuting idea. 



Dr.Grass said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

I wouldnt be so sure about that, especially with our great religion increasing in China

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128546334

China accepting christianity to some level would be amazing. Not only would atheism become much weaker in the world but it would also start the spreading of our religion in the far east and Asian continent overall, something our forfathers werent able to do before.

One can hope...

First of all, the majority of the Chinese aren't atheists (only about 14-15% of them are), they're Buddhists or Taoists.

Second of all, most of that part of Asia was colonised by Europeans. If they couldn't convert them by now, they ain't gonna (and you can ber sure that the muslims ain't gonna convert).

Third of all, Christianity is one of the worse things that could happen to China. The last thing they need is a radical religious sect ruining their developing country and halting their progress.

(and in the West, thanks to secularism, atheists have nothing to worry about ).

(Oh, and all reliable sources indicate that Islam is by far the fastest growing religion in the world. Even an organisation such as the World Christian Database says so).


I didnt excpect another kind of response from you...

First of all, majority of chinese are atheist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China#Statistics      

Second, countries like China, japan, Thailand and Mongolia werent colonised by europeans (at least not most of them), and I wasnt talking about middle easter muslim countries, but about the countries in the far east.

Another random insult, which if I wrote, zexen would ban me in a second because of ''religious intolerance'' but that only applies if a non-christian belief is insulted, but whatever. You just keep living up to those stereotypes.

And Islam is spreading due to big birth rates in families, but Christianity is spreading aong whole nations and continents, which is a long-term advantige over Islam.


The number of people that adhere to any given faith tells us nothing about the level of truth in that faith. In fact, seeing as we are pretty much destroying the world one could argue the opposite...

Your presentation of Christianity will certainly deter intelligent people from trying to understand Christian Theology. Quite possibly there are some smart self-proclaimed atheistic guys reading your comments and thinking:''Yeah, that's just more proof that religious dogma is for lower class people.''

While I myself am in no way atheistic, I have to say that I cannot blame anyone who reads your comments and comes to the above (religion is for fools) conclusion.

Jesus didn't try and convert as many people as possible to become Christians. He dedicated his life to understanding and teaching spiritual truth.

So basiclly, you didnt adress anything what i have said, you just mocked my arguments? Ok



Dr.Grass said:

It's much more important to do something that's sustainable than to pasionately go all out for something.

For me its easier than for most since I stayed in India for a while and learnt to cook there from a master cook. I quite enjoy inviting friends over and impressing them with a special dinner.

So I don't think you should worry about tuna. Besides, Rastas eat fish too :D


Wow, lucky you! I love (mild) vegetarian curries, ate one not too long ago at a restaurent and if I could cook like that, I'd have no problem being 100% vegetarian. As for now, I'm pretty much a lessmeatarian... I don't eat a lot of meat but I still feel for it. Only reason I still do is my cooking isn't so great with vegetarian food.

I believe that to be as kind as you can be, you need to show compassion for living being, and animals are living being. I believe they have feelings (although not as extream as ours) and they can feel stressed, in danger and fearful. I aspire to become a better person and being vegetarian would be a step towards that.

As for religion, well while reading the Quran, I learned that there is still no satisfaction on my part. If God is perfect, then the religion would be perfect, and yet I don't find such evidence. There are things I disagree with in every religion, or at least things have too much emphasis on certain things (like Buddhism saying that pain is from cravings, is true in many situations but not always-but then again Buddhism isn't based on divine revelations I suppose).

I'm pretty much back at square one, believing that there being a God, is a 50/50 chance, believing in God being a better option than not to... It's not like I'm losing anything by beliving anyway. Still not following any religion so to speak. I suppose I could follow some Buddhist teachings without really being a Buddhist... *Shrugs* It's so complicated! I can't believe that people can just pick something and stick with it.