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ethomaz on 12 March 2011
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:

With America numbers GT5 finnaly break 6 million sold.

   Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide
Ten Week Totals: 1,575,500 584,119 3,583,318 5,742,937
Lifetime Totals: 1,660,448 595,690 3,754,740 6,010,878

Our bet is getting more interesting, but I still think I'm going to win. :p

I'm fine losing by little ;).



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darthdevidem01 on 12 March 2011
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:

I noticed that adjustments were done affecting the last 2 months of sales. With these adjustments PS2 is actually tracking on par with PSP for 2011 in Americas. That's nuts! PSP is a dying platform here. Also it seems 360 shortages for Early January are more extreme now, and in general 360, and PS3 sales are scaled up for the last 2 months, and Wii and DS sales are only scaled up for February, bt scaled down a bit for January.

My estimate using Japanese Media create sales is PS3 sold 205k worldwide this week, and 360 sold about 183k worldwide. I'm surprised PS3 sales didn't drop more after Killzone 3's launch week, but the gap isn't too big.

Next week DS sales will be crazy with Pokemons release.

PSP has apparently been a dying platform in NA since 2 years now...its still not dead!!!!

I really wanna know what SONY is doing to PSP, I mean what life support system its on, if only we could keep humans alive like this!

What's scary is that PS3 sales follow PS3 trends very closely. PS3 is almost 2 years older then PSP, does this mean it will continue following the trend PSP set and begin to die like PSP did 2 years ago?

It's a sign of future consoles to come.

You mean PS3 sales follow PSP trends

But do they really? How so?

Align PS3 and PSP launches, and look at annual sales. Note I merged PS3 2006 sales into 2007.

Worldwide(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 8.95 9.92 13.02 14.44    
PSP 9.60 9.39 12.36 13.87 10.40 9.30
Americas(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 3.61 4.66 4.96 5.54    
PSP 4.07 3.43 4.17 4.52 2.98 2.27

Okay well PS3 follows PSP trends worldwide, not so closely in Americas, but still. PSP sales droped after 4 solid years, and if PS3 follows PSP sales worldwide, that would mean PS3 sales should drop as well. Already its selling 20% less on a weekly basis, and there is no Move launch to boost holiday sales.

Worldwide PS3 sales for 2011 could be as low as 11-12 million, and in Americas it could be as low as 4-4.5 million.

PS3 is likely to start falling this year. Sales will be a bit stronger then PSP's, but in 2 years Ithink the console will be dying in Americas region, and likely worldwide too.

No MOVE launch but there will be a price cut, and I bet a slimmer model in 2012.

You will see this trend end very soon, this year in fact. PS3 YOY down will be reversed thanks to its price cut in summer or later this year.

You under-estimate the power of a mass market price, never forget PS3 is still expensive relative to other systems.

Why don't you do a PSP/PS3 EMEAA comparison. EMEAA alone might result in this "trend" not happening.



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Michael-5 on 12 March 2011
ethomaz said:

Surprise people... with these adjustments PS3 just won every week WW over 360 except the Week Ending 29th Jan 2011... before the 360 won 3 weeks.

The power of adjustments.

More data...

Killzone 3, Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (preffered for PS3 owners), Samarai Warriors 3Z in Japan (stat tie this week and the one prior), LBP week, 360 shortages weeks at start of Jan.

Then for 360 - Dead Space 2 week.

Wow 360 only beat PS3 1 week WW this year. However on weeks without large software releases, sales are statistically tied. Even LBP2 launch week, 360 sales were only 6k behind PS3. It's going to be a close year.

I'm guessing PS3 has the upcoming week due to fallout fro KZ3, the week after is 360 due to Dragon Age 2 being more popular on 360. The week after that HomeFront may keep sales inclined to 360, but it will likely be a statistical tie, and the week after is definatly 360 due to Cryis 2. Then there is a month of no major releases, wil sales be statistically tied? I think so.



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Nsanity on 12 March 2011
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
yo_john117 said:
Beuli2 said:

Fixed for ya:

Console Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide
DS
105.315 17.096 90.609 213.020

95.580 25.918 83.561 205.059






Goodwork

 

Wow I just noticed that Halo Reach is having surprisingly sexy legs...moreso than I though was going to happen.

Halo should hit 8 million next and it looks like Alan Wake has passd the 1 million retail mark this week.

1
Alan Wake (X360)
Microsoft
0.58 0.05 0.37 1.00

to bad it took so much bundling for the game to reach 1 mill, its a pretty good game.

to bad they messed up bad in the development, it could have been much better, shouldve stayed open world and multiplatform.

i wonder if they will ever profit off it?

 Digital sales aren't accounted for since the game has to be downloaded via the marketplace.



Michael-5 on 12 March 2011
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:

I noticed that adjustments were done affecting the last 2 months of sales. With these adjustments PS2 is actually tracking on par with PSP for 2011 in Americas. That's nuts! PSP is a dying platform here. Also it seems 360 shortages for Early January are more extreme now, and in general 360, and PS3 sales are scaled up for the last 2 months, and Wii and DS sales are only scaled up for February, bt scaled down a bit for January.

My estimate using Japanese Media create sales is PS3 sold 205k worldwide this week, and 360 sold about 183k worldwide. I'm surprised PS3 sales didn't drop more after Killzone 3's launch week, but the gap isn't too big.

Next week DS sales will be crazy with Pokemons release.

PSP has apparently been a dying platform in NA since 2 years now...its still not dead!!!!

I really wanna know what SONY is doing to PSP, I mean what life support system its on, if only we could keep humans alive like this!

What's scary is that PS3 sales follow PS3 trends very closely. PS3 is almost 2 years older then PSP, does this mean it will continue following the trend PSP set and begin to die like PSP did 2 years ago?

It's a sign of future consoles to come.

You mean PS3 sales follow PSP trends

But do they really? How so?

Align PS3 and PSP launches, and look at annual sales. Note I merged PS3 2006 sales into 2007.

Worldwide(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 8.95 9.92 13.02 14.44    
PSP 9.60 9.39 12.36 13.87 10.40 9.30
Americas(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 3.61 4.66 4.96 5.54    
PSP 4.07 3.43 4.17 4.52 2.98 2.27

Okay well PS3 follows PSP trends worldwide, not so closely in Americas, but still. PSP sales droped after 4 solid years, and if PS3 follows PSP sales worldwide, that would mean PS3 sales should drop as well. Already its selling 20% less on a weekly basis, and there is no Move launch to boost holiday sales.

Worldwide PS3 sales for 2011 could be as low as 11-12 million, and in Americas it could be as low as 4-4.5 million.

PS3 is likely to start falling this year. Sales will be a bit stronger then PSP's, but in 2 years Ithink the console will be dying in Americas region, and likely worldwide too.

No MOVE launch but there will be a price cut, and I bet a slimmer model in 2012.

You will see this trend end very soon, this year in fact. PS3 YOY down will be reversed thanks to its price cut in summer or later this year.

You under-estimate the power of a mass market price, never forget PS3 is still expensive relative to other systems.

Why don't you do a PSP/PS3 EMEAA comparison. EMEAA alone might result in this "trend" not happening.
EMEAA (millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 3.66 4.75 6.24 7.35    
PSP 3.31 4.11 5.13 5.55 5.13 4.15

 

Japan (millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 1.69 1.07 1.83 1.55    
PSP 2.22 1.86 3.06 3.80 2.28 2.88

Before making the graphs, I would think Japan is the onle likely to break trends. Also with a price cut, PS3 sales might be on par with 2010, but who is to garentee a major price cut? Since launch PS3's price has dropped 50% already, Wii has only dropped 25%, and it's YoY sales are the most hurt. PS3 is also selling very well this year, a price cut might hurt revenue more then help. Only console we can almost garentee a price cut for are Wii and DS, but not the PS3/360. Although a PS3 price cut is still likely, I'm just saying it's not garenteed.

So you can see EMEAA PS3 sales follow roughly the same trend as PSP. The difference varies from 10.5% to 32.4%, but PS3 should begin to drop soon. 2011 may still be it's peak year, but 2012 sales wll be down.

The original question was will PS3 sales drop as fast in Americas as PSP did? maybe not as much for Year5 (2011) with a price cut, but it probably will come close to PSP levels in Year6 (2012).



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makingmusic476 on 12 March 2011

To be fair, the PSP's software line up had completely dried up outside of Japan by year five, save for the occasional first party release (LittleBigPlanet) or crappy third party port (Assassin's Creed).

That won't be the case for PS3, which has western developers fully on board and not wanting to jump into a new generation anytime soon.



Conegamer on 12 March 2011

360 is d00med!

I'm surprised at Wii, advertising works obviously...

Next week I await pokemation, it will be TEH AWESOME!!!

Oh, well done PS3, I suppose!



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

yo_john117 on 12 March 2011
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
yo_john117 said:
Beuli2 said:

Fixed for ya:

Console Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide
DS
105.315 17.096 90.609 213.020

95.580 25.918 83.561 205.059






Goodwork

 

Wow I just noticed that Halo Reach is having surprisingly sexy legs...moreso than I though was going to happen.

Halo should hit 8 million next and it looks like Alan Wake has passd the 1 million retail mark this week.

1
Alan Wake (X360)
Microsoft
0.58 0.05 0.37 1.00

to bad it took so much bundling for the game to reach 1 mill, its a pretty good game.

to bad they messed up bad in the development, it could have been much better, shouldve stayed open world and multiplatform.

i wonder if they will ever profit off it?

Actually VGC doesn't track downloadable titles and the vast majority of AW bundles were a DLC card...so it got to a million retail with basically no bundeling. If you add in the digital sales then its most likely over 1.3/1.4 million.



small44 on 12 March 2011

PSP hardware sale fall because of lack of game.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

mibuokami on 12 March 2011
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Michael-5 said:

I noticed that adjustments were done affecting the last 2 months of sales. With these adjustments PS2 is actually tracking on par with PSP for 2011 in Americas. That's nuts! PSP is a dying platform here. Also it seems 360 shortages for Early January are more extreme now, and in general 360, and PS3 sales are scaled up for the last 2 months, and Wii and DS sales are only scaled up for February, bt scaled down a bit for January.

My estimate using Japanese Media create sales is PS3 sold 205k worldwide this week, and 360 sold about 183k worldwide. I'm surprised PS3 sales didn't drop more after Killzone 3's launch week, but the gap isn't too big.

Next week DS sales will be crazy with Pokemons release.

PSP has apparently been a dying platform in NA since 2 years now...its still not dead!!!!

I really wanna know what SONY is doing to PSP, I mean what life support system its on, if only we could keep humans alive like this!

What's scary is that PS3 sales follow PS3 trends very closely. PS3 is almost 2 years older then PSP, does this mean it will continue following the trend PSP set and begin to die like PSP did 2 years ago?

It's a sign of future consoles to come.

You mean PS3 sales follow PSP trends

But do they really? How so?

Align PS3 and PSP launches, and look at annual sales. Note I merged PS3 2006 sales into 2007.

Worldwide(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 8.95 9.92 13.02 14.44    
PSP 9.60 9.39 12.36 13.87 10.40 9.30
Americas(millions) Year1 Year2 Year3 Year4 Year5 Year6
PS3 3.61 4.66 4.96 5.54    
PSP 4.07 3.43 4.17 4.52 2.98 2.27

Okay well PS3 follows PSP trends worldwide, not so closely in Americas, but still. PSP sales droped after 4 solid years, and if PS3 follows PSP sales worldwide, that would mean PS3 sales should drop as well. Already its selling 20% less on a weekly basis, and there is no Move launch to boost holiday sales.

Worldwide PS3 sales for 2011 could be as low as 11-12 million, and in Americas it could be as low as 4-4.5 million.

PS3 is likely to start falling this year. Sales will be a bit stronger then PSP's, but in 2 years Ithink the console will be dying in Americas region, and likely worldwide too.

Um isn't 2 years when the new gen console is likely gonna launch? That's a pretty safe prediction imo :P