I'm a little reserved. I'm looking forward to it but I'm eager to see a bit more of what they've done in putting the game together in terms or plot or structure, and if they've changed anything at all. I'd like to see something a bit different whilst still keeping that Zelda feel.

I got really far in MM but I didn't beat it. I regret that. They were a lot harder but I didn't pick up on the direction you had to swing. Like the plants would have there mouths open horizontally and I just kept swing downward so I was getting my ass kicked.

Actually even this isn't true either, Soriku's technically right in part; Zelda dungeons have always had puzzles, and so have the overworld, though to pretend that the first game was crammed with them would be dishonest.

Yes, figuring out which block to slide is a puzzle.

We apparently have radically different definitions of the word puzzle.  Mine requires thought and ingenuity on the player's behalf. "Kill all the enemies, then push all the blocks if necessary" does not rise to that level.  Fighting some of the enemies requires more thought than that.

Getting into the peak of Death Mountain in itself w as a pretty involved puzzle. Yes, we are operating off of different definitions of a puzzle here, but you didn't give a definition, you gave a minimum requirement.

A puzzle is an environmental challenge that does not involve combat and for which the means of progression are not apparent at first glance. Needing to bomb the shit out of walls? That's a puzzle. Pushing blocks? That's a puzzle. Playing the Christing flute in front of a lake, why would you even do that? Oh, you better believe that's a puzzle.

Under your definition the entirety of Metroid is a puzzle then, which i would not disagree with, but we should make a semantic effort to differentiate between our modern, Layton-esque Zelda puzzles and the Metroid-esque puzzles that have been with the franchise since its inception

There is not a linear differentation, here. One evolved from the other, and playing through all the games gives you a sense of how it happened.

I am excited for Skyward Sword- yes. I do, however wish that there was a "lazy" option-- to just play the game without the fancy pantsy stuff. Now don't get me wrong, I am an active person- there are just some times that I want to veg out and play my video games, ya know??

Most Zelda enemies become waaaay easier after the first 2 encounters because you now know exactly what to do. But in a game like GoW or metroid for example, they remain tough no matter how many times you encounter them, even when you know their patterns. I know u probably only had a half hour hands on, but do you think they can stay tough after you know what trick to pull or do they die in 2 hits like most Zelda enemies?

    BTW, go finish MM. I'm on my 2nd playthrough. Tell me you at least beat the water dungeon?

Yea thats thing it was only a 10min demo so I'm sure I'd get used to it eventually. I can't say if they'll stay tough forever. Yea  i got up the graveyard with that big zombie dog. I stopped around there.