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LordTheNightKnight said:
KungKras said:

Trip Hawkins should just make his own console if he feels so restricted then.

Oh wait, he actually did, and it failed horribly.

What system was that?

The 3DO.

And guess what?  It had licensing fees too!

(The fees were lower than the ones from Nintendo or Sega, but third parties didn't care because no one wanted to buy a $700 console.)



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theRepublic said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
KungKras said:

Trip Hawkins should just make his own console if he feels so restricted then.

Oh wait, he actually did, and it failed horribly.

What system was that?

The 3DO.

And guess what?  It had licensing fees too!

(The fees were lower than the ones from Nintendo or Sega, but third parties didn't care because no one wanted to buy a $700 console.)


So he doesn't know economics and it blaming two of the top companies. This is sadly too common in the gaming industry.



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KungKras said:

Trip Hawkins should just make his own console if he feels so restricted then.

Oh wait, he actually did, and it failed horribly.

And i think you had to license software to run on the 3DO. The only difference being that 3DO Company itself licensed manufacturing rights out to Panasonic, Sanyo, and Gold Star



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I'm not sure I follow how the presence of both low quality and inexpensive games is "wrecking" the industry.

Are top quality games no longer being developed and or selling?

Rhetorical question: they are being developed and many of the deserving products are generating profits.

Is the market being diluted by short development/cheap games sold for less than $1? That depends on if you believe anyone paying $.99 for an app is expecting the same level of quality of a game that retails for $60. I genuinely hope no one is actually seriously expecting this or even suggesting that any significant number of reasonably intelligent consumers are either.

Anyone quoting a bit of history from 1983 is conveniently overlooking the fact that the flood of crappy games that helped tank the market (to include majorly hyped, high demand licenses such as E.T. and Pac-Man) retailed for full price due in part to cartridge/retail distribution. Naturally there would be a consumer backlash after paying high prices for shoddy content. Atari Pac-Man was programmed in about 6 weeks by one man (Tod Frye).

Would you pay $60 for a game programmed by one guy over 6 weeks? Given the number of man hours it takes to produce the typical $60 game, I know I wouldn't.

NOBODY expects an app they downloaded off the App Store for $.99 to be the equivalent of a $60 retail game.

They're also overlooking the fact that comparing the gaming industry of 1983 to the gaming industry of 2011 is like comparing the silent film industry of 1906 to the film industry of 2011 in terms of revenue generated and overall size. Back in 1983, video games WERE a novelty/curiosity to the general public. Now they generate more revenue than the film industry.

About the only niche of retail gaming that I believe could be at risk due to iOS and Android games is the $20-40 handheld game market if enough consumers simply aren't interested enough in high production value mobile games to pay the substantial premium.



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Acevil said:
alekth said:

Err, so Nintendo is bad for not really allowing small developers to make a game, but then so is Apple for allowing too many small developers to make a game?

There's always the PC for free and open business, incl. allowing small developers to do whatever... but then again wasn't EA having a fit about PC gaming recently?


EA pretty much hates nintendo, because well they couldn't really do well in that market, EA pretty much seems to have problem with PC for whatever reasons. EA as a business is doing horribe, when compared to (Ubisoft and hell, even Activision (who also had one bad quarter.)

If EA continues down this path, only a matter of time. 

Thats why peter moore went over to EA. He's working to make EA MS's. LOL



bannedagain said:
Acevil said:
alekth said:

Err, so Nintendo is bad for not really allowing small developers to make a game, but then so is Apple for allowing too many small developers to make a game?

There's always the PC for free and open business, incl. allowing small developers to do whatever... but then again wasn't EA having a fit about PC gaming recently?


EA pretty much hates nintendo, because well they couldn't really do well in that market, EA pretty much seems to have problem with PC for whatever reasons. EA as a business is doing horribe, when compared to (Ubisoft and hell, even Activision (who also had one bad quarter.)

If EA continues down this path, only a matter of time. 

Thats why peter moore went over to EA. He's working to make EA MS's. LOL


Notice how Microsoft starts making money all of sudden, and EA keeps going deeper and deeper in the red. 

I believe he is also part of Sega of America, before Microsoft....



 

Acevil said:


Notice how Microsoft starts making money all of sudden, and EA keeps going deeper and deeper in the red. 

I believe he is also part of Sega of America, before Microsoft....


if true this guy needs to be scourged from the universe... gone



 

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AussieGecko said:
Acevil said:


Notice how Microsoft starts making money all of sudden, and EA keeps going deeper and deeper in the red. 

I believe he is also part of Sega of America, before Microsoft....


if true this guy needs to be scourged from the universe... gone


I doubt he is the source of the problem in each case, but seriously it is kind of funny, how he goes from one company to another each happening to be going into the red. 



 

Acevil said:


I doubt he is the source of the problem in each case, but seriously it is kind of funny, how he goes from one company to another each happening to be going into the red. 


and jumps out before it is too late.



 

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