I think we should. 

Hey darth, could you compare the quality of LBP and DKC Returns for us?  How does each game stack up in your opinion?

Yeah it was a bad choice of words but I meant what you and miz12qw3e said. DKCR made NSMB Wii look like a much lesser game, so for me felt like a sort of generational leap over each other as DKCR felt far ahead in even production values, let alone everything else. I bow down to Retro.

And no I haven't bashed NSMB Wii hard in the past (I think its a 8/10 game), just disagreed with rol whenever he went on a rant about how SMG1/2 are worse than NSMB Wii while I think both SMG1/2 trounce NSMB Wii, in that discussion I may have shown "hate" towards NSMB Wii as I love SMG1/2 so much.

Do you want me to compare LBP and DKCR? or LBP2 and DKCR?

With LBP2 its hard as its not really just a platformer anymore, the variety of gameplay modes really turned it into a sort of amazing minigame creator and people have even made movies with it with the cut scene creator mode, its very hard to compare LBP2 to DKCR because LBP2's genre is no longer "platformer", it really is so much more. If I had to score them though DKCR would get the higher score. However its as close as they come, some of the things users have done on LBP2 is simply astounding (someone has been able to make a heavy rain type of game).

LBP1 is easier to compare as its really mostly a platformer (the levels you can create are limited to platforming stages, just a few exceptions to that rule are present) and it was an ok one, but the Play and share aspect (not create...that sucked...a very unintuitive system) was amazing, the game never got old as especially 1-2 years after LBP's release some levels on there were amazing. That made the game awesome in the end. Had LBP1 just had its story single player mode levels it would be far worse than NSMB wii, let alone close to DKCR, but Play/Share took it from a 7/10 to over a 9/10 game for me.

@ darth  To be fair, I never used the create tool in LBP and haven't played the second at all.  All I can say is that I didn't care for the "feel" of the platforming in the first game and prefered NSMB Wii by a wide margin.  Also, user generated content isn't a big deal to me.  I prefer it when skilled developers create the levels that I'm playing instead of amateurs.  That's just me though. 

I have to say that I'm a liitle surprised that you rate DKC Returns higher than either game considering your love for LBP.  It really is a testament to how phenomenal DKCR really is.  This is why I have to take that SPECIAL organization down.

A banana split? 

Mmm mmm mmm.  Those are delicious.

I know what you mean by feel, I didn't mind it too much.

The deal with user generated content at least in LBP2 is that a lot of it is really better than the devs one. And now there's sites like LBP Planet that highlight levels, and the interface itself has Media Molecule Picks...so you no longer need to sieve through poor levels. I don't like the create tools either, but many user created levels are awesome now.

I am surprised I liked DKCR so much too. But you know when something amazes you and you get susprised and then it keeps amazing you in new ways as you keep playing, DKCR is doing that. Each world has at least 2 levels that make me go, damn, HOW did they think up of that, it was so fun, thrilling and felt fresh!! And getting that feeling makes it an unforgettable experience (far moreso than LBP1/2). At this point I would say DKCR is in my top 5 fav games of this gen and I haven't even finished it yet, I mean its torn me away from GT5 (you know how hyped I was got GT5!!!).

It's on like Donkey Kong.

DK can only DREAM of looking that good in a bikini.  :P

Damned right!!!

Everyone see the lady with me in Sorsha's avatar.  THAT is Honey Ryder.

Good job! DKCR is 11/10.

I hate to disagree with u,but, SMG2 is better than SMG1. SMG2 is much difficult and had more content than SMG1. SMG1 was too easy imo.

As for DKCR, I haven't played it yet,but, do plan on buying it this week.