I'll have to take your word for it until I get some time.

Its a war, folks:

(these are the protestors, BTW)

I'd say, though, that the war is caused only by Qudaffi's unwillingness to vacate power, which has unfortunately caused military clashes. Qudaffi should be shot as soon as expedient. Although I don't know if the US should be involved. If I could though, I'd gladly give financial aid to the rebels in the form of semi-automatic rifles, preferably in the 7.62x51 range.

Okay, I have a little time so I will elaborate, my question with the ICC being able to judge a someone while ignoring jurisdiction comes from allegations being placed against certain US persons for war crimes yet the ICC can't do anything about it.

Mr. Stick Ball I wish I had some pictures of the north Ireland revolt, if they do start using the weapons in those pictures their country could slip into turmoil.

Well the USA can veto any referal from the security council and are not a state party so it's impossible for the ICC to investigate. In any case I don't think most the acusations levelled against G.Bush and co. are war crimes as such, they're about fighting an illegal war. The ICC is quite limited in its jurisdiction, it cannot investigate whether a war is illegal - only if actions during a war are war crimes.

Umm the rebels have organised a Government (Council) and have begun organising the protestors and defectors into a unified military. Also today it was reported that these rebels are indeed using the weapons pictured. The real question is once the Gaddafi is gone will the rebels unify and create a new Government or will they turn their guns on one another like Somalia did and slip into chaos!

Again, it depends on the people of Tripoli, I've made that point clear already. At this point if they don't protest it tells the protestors that they support Khadafy and if that is the case then it becomes civil war as regions can be clearly drawn.

Otherwise if they start using those weapons even on people that support their cause they deserve as much help as Khadafy.

If they don't protest then it tells people that they're shit scared. There were protests in Tripoli and the protestors got killed in large numbers.

Hence the difference between civil unrest and civil war.

I'm still not seeing why the government is performing so poorly in the fight. Libya had a WMD program until 2003, you'd figure they've invested enough in technology to beat some people like this, even if it isn't anywhere near "modern" military technology, if it was Soviet surplus or something

Why are they doing so badly fighting these rebels?

Lets see:

• Command & Control is a total mess due to defections to the rebels
• Rebels have high amounts of potent anti-Govt weaponry including MANPADs, tanks and rumored to even have SAM sites under control
• Low morale (fighting ones own countrymen can't be good)
• Rebels have a lot, and I mean a LOT of AA on their side. Every few pictures I've seen involved dual 12.5mm batteries on toyota trucks or something of that sort.

Essentially, the govt. has a few nice toys, and the rebels have the means and manpower to counter it. Aircraft can only do so much when your ATC's deserted, and you are facing heavy resistence of similar technology and capability levels.

Fun picture of the day: