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Damnyouall said:
Kasz216 said:

Hah.  It's ironic that Sony was sued for the very thing they are sueing for now.


Indeed :)
Sony is currently being sued for violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse act (Other OS removal).


Yeah, that one I was aware of, what i wasn't aware of, is they were sued for betamax for "helping copyright infringement."

Which... actually holds more weight then saying Geohot helped it... since they actually specifically made something who's majority and intended purpose was to copy copyrighted works.



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badgenome said:

Sony has done some pretty over the top stuff for sure, but so has Microsoft in their ongoing war against piracy. For instance, starving the pirates by not making any games (trollolololol!).

That was hillarious Badge, I'll give you that.



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Kasz216 said:
Damnyouall said:
Kasz216 said:

Hah.  It's ironic that Sony was sued for the very thing they are sueing for now.


Indeed :)
Sony is currently being sued for violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse act (Other OS removal).


Yeah, that one I was aware of, what i wasn't aware of, is they were sued for betamax for "helping copyright infringement."

Which... actually holds more weight then saying Geohot helped it... since they actually specifically made something who's majority and intended purpose was to copy copyrighted works.

Sony also sued LG for having its patents in their phones and Lg fired back for sony having patents of theirs in ps3s



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Where is the homebrew? where is the Dreamcast emulator? Wii emulator? N64 emulator? none. All I have seen is file managers, back ups and ftp which are very usefull for piracy .



Rafux said:

Where is the homebrew? where is the Dreamcast emulator? Wii emulator? N64 emulator? none. All I have seen is file managers, back ups and ftp which are very usefull for piracy .


You are asking where an emulator is... like a month after a hack has been made?

Does Wii even have a PC emulator?  I'd honestly be shocked if it did... or if it did, if it ran well.

Er seriously?  Actually Geohot released an NES emulator though.

Meanwhile, making backups of your games... = legal.

Though i've never done it.  Should though.  Had to rebuy SD vs RAW 2011 when i accidently stepped on my powersupply in the middle of the night.



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Rafux said:

Where is the homebrew? where is the Dreamcast emulator? Wii emulator? N64 emulator? none. All I have seen is file managers, back ups and ftp which are very usefull for piracy .


exactly, videos on youtube of hacked ps3's show nothing but backed up games, not seen much of people running linux......
people defending this saying, people only wanted linux back honestly have no idea



Rafux said:

Where is the homebrew? where is the Dreamcast emulator? Wii emulator? N64 emulator? none. All I have seen is file managers, back ups and ftp which are very usefull for piracy .

FBANext (arcade) , PS364, N64onPS3, SNES9X, E-UAE (amiga) and more... first homebrew game was released yesterday called Pintor..



 

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Regarding the geohot thing, what the article fails to acknowledge is that Sony is the 'Maker' here, not geohot.

Whether or not there is any legal ground for Sony is imho a bit irrelevant (who thinks the law is always fair anyway?). Even if Sony's agressive stance is smart or not is besides the point.

I feel they have the right to protect their investment, which geohot and the likes are jeopardizing. Sony has been selling their platform under cost price so that customers can afford the thing, meaning to recoup the investment by software. This investment created jobs for god knows how many people developing the platform & the content. That is why the PS3 is a closed platform. Personally I think that's a pretty compelling reason.

If geohot seriously thinks his 'efforts to avoid piracy' are enough than he's really one arrogant (or perhaps just thick and ignorant) kid. Who says his 'efforts' can not be worked around? Did he avoid a PS emulator to be ported? (Sony still sells PS1 games, mind you, so he has actually still opened the door to piracy in a way)

He distributed tools to break security, and that directly jeopardizes the bread and butter of a lot of people. So geohot, is your little hobby worth that? The industry is under enough pressure as it is, so I'd rather see him excercise his skills in a more meaningful way.

My 2cts



Rafux said:

Where is the homebrew? where is the Dreamcast emulator? Wii emulator? N64 emulator? none. All I have seen is file managers, back ups and ftp which are very usefull for piracy .


Give it time. The system has been open for a few months and optimising an emu is not easy, nor is writing homebrew games. Give it a year I say and there will be tons of great homebrew available.



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Damnyouall said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Damnyouall said:

BTW, his internet handle is "geohot".

But yeah, reading sucks. Fills your head with new concepts and makes you think. Obviously not a good mindset for sheeple.


if we want read , we read a good book or a good magazine or an article not that pile of shit and garbage that you post !!!!

 

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Amazing how your incredible intellect allowed you to classify the article I posted as a "pile of shit and garbage" without reading it. The world and this forum need more people like you. Looking forward to the mental enrichment your next 500 posts are surely going to provide.

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