you can still play games with a ps3 and keep your stupid other OS feature -- what you lose is access to psn which yet again was not part of your purchase price of the ps3.

..and if geohot and company were to make their very own OS from the ground up and decide to release that -- i wouldn't care at all.    but when the basis of their "work" is tampering with sony's firmware without sony's permission -- that is wrong.

No...?

Every game after RDR requires firmware above 3.15.

Go to the "Geohot pleading for money" thread. Kasz just put it really well. And I don't feel like plagiarising right now.

Wow, I thought Sony would just ban everybody who has homebrew, but they are really going on an all-out war. 

Quit all that bullshit. Everyone who games on the PS3 bought the consol for the games. If people wern't stealing the companys software by pirating games and creating cheats to use online that fucks up there legitimate experiance then this wouldn't be a fucking problem. I've no problem with people doing whatever they want to do with there consols just as long as my experiance isn't ruined and I definitley think Sony wouldn't give too shits either if there games and the games of there third party support wasn't getting stolen. If Sony was this against homebrew that didn't involve pirated games then why did they include Linux with the PS3 in the first place which already allowed people to run homebrew.

The people who think its all about our rights are dam fucking fools. No matter who wins the case you's will all still be doing the exact same thing with your machine after the court case that yous are currently doing with it now. Geohot hacked the PS3 for 2 simple things. Recognition and glory. His name is now associated with the person who hacked the unhackable PS3. He doesn't give a fuck about any of your rights. He did what everyone else like him does when faced with trouble. Make up excuses to make himself look less guilty.

Now I'm finished with this subject. Currently as it stands the banhammer seems to be working right now and Developers and Sony are making there games more secure so its looking like my experiance won't be fucked with for awhile. Sony and Geohot can do what ever they like. Personally I hope Geohot looses this battle and it declares him bankrupt for the rest of his life. Not because he hacked the PS3 but because of the amount of eejits he has following him who thinks hes some rebel fighting for a great cause.

They can look at starving children on the telly that can't even hold there own heads up from malnutrition and ignore them but some rich kid hacker from the states needs money to fight a case and they find 50 dollars in there dam pockets?

Sorry but you are actually wrong because the first time you try accessing psn you are greeted with those terms of service and before you download a firmware update you are greeted with those terms too. Also if you bought a PS3 before the firmware update that remove OtherOS went live and you never accessed PSN or downloaded a firmware update you would still have the otherOS feature. And if you bought the PS3 after the firmware update that removed otheros then the otherOS wasn't part of your purchase.

Fact is if you claimed you never agreed to the terms of servive and you no longer have OS support(Phat owners only) then you are lying.

Err... what?

He said that Sony allowed him to use their service and he signed a EULA. If you don't agree to the EULA then yeah, you don't get access to Sony's services. You should then have the right to take your device and go elsewhere for support. 

Now how is what you said any different then what I said? If you say no to the EULA you can't play new games. it has nothing to do with the OtherOS

most of your post is just inane gibberish, so i will only address this section. 

why the hell should i care that some women in africa cant keep her legs closed and gives birth to dozens of children that she knows she cant feed.   most people who cant feed their children wouldnt continue to have more of them.  if people stopped giving them free food perhaps they would realize they shouldnt just continue to have all these kids.  the more kids they have the more they get...just like all those people on welfare with so many kids, who get more money for each kid they have. 

wow man...that's just wrong...so wrong

I have not seen one person in this forum openly support piracy once, and this is exactly what Sony should be doing; going after piracy and not the people who aren't hurting them financially at all.

You have to blame society for that, not the person whose a victim from it. It is not only in Africa. There are homeless starving people in the Americas too, and around the world. Even in the United States. Why do the gorvernment spend 80 billion a year on war when that could house and feed everyone.

You need a clearer view instead of that narrow dogmatic thinking mind that you have now.

OT: The real damage has already been done, its only a matter of time for them to release a new SKU that is prolly hack proof.