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Machina said:

Nowadays I'm reading a lot, problem is I rapidly run out of books I'm interested in reading.

At the moment I have a thing for sci-fi, but I'm very particular about what storylines I'll actually enjoy, so I find myself ruling out a lot of 'classics', and modern sci-fi is extremely hit and miss (The Posleen War series is supposed to be brilliant, but I find it barely comprehensible. On the other hand, the Old Man's War series was absolutely fantastic and makes everything else I read pretty crap in comparison :/ ).

Anywho, I'm currently working my way through Asimov's Foundation series. It's not that amazing, but I'm enjoying it enough to want to read the whole series, which gives me about another 8 or so books to go before I'll need to find something else.


Recommendations are more than welcome ^^

Give Neuromancer a try not quite as "clasic" as some and not modern Sci fi ether. A seminal work in the cyberpunk genre it's definatly an interesting read and also not that long. It is a bit strange tho and has some drugs, sex and space rastafarians!!!

especially reccomended if you like Ghost in the Shell/The Matrix

Oh an if you have not read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books go read them now!



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i liked the first Hitchhiker book, but feel they go downhill after it...i didnt even finish whichever was the last one i was reading (fourth or fifth)



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MrBubbles said:

i liked the first Hitchhiker book, but feel they go downhill after it...i didnt even finish whichever was the last one i was reading (fourth or fifth)


the first is the best and the forth is a bit dull, I really liked the fith tho and Eoin Colfer's 6th is pretty good to if not quite up to the level of the first lol. I do love parts of the seccond and third "Joggers"



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highwaystar101 said:

I don't really read fiction I'm afraid, as far as fiction goes I'm mostly Discworld oriented.

I like books about science and nature though, I think I like to learn when I read, it's a big part of my enjoyment. At the moment I'm reading a book called "Quantum theory cannot hurt you", it's not the best book I've ever read if I'm being honest, but it's a nice introduction I suppose.

I'm also reading the Qu'ran, mostly out of interest and partly to get rid of some of my ignorance about Islam. But I've broken it down into smaller portions. I don't plan on reading it all at once, I'm reading chapters inbetween other books.

Wouldn't Quantum Physics for Dummies or Explaining "Quantum Physiscs for Dummies" be a more appropriate introduction into the field?

Anyways, you can learn something from fiction too. It's just not gonna be something explicit. You're gonna have to interpret the text on a superior level, rather than just taking the actions that go on in the book at face value. I think that every (good) fiction author tries to communicate something to the reader, something that's more than just the sum of all the words that make up the text, and more than the actions that make up the narrative.

I also don't get why someone who's not religious would want to read a religious text? What would be the point?

I think introductions to a topic aren't monopolised by "*insert topic here* for dummies", and those ones aren't always the most suitable any way.

I know what you mean about taking the learning from the book by interpreting the story, but that's not what I want. I can read fiction and interpret the text, it's not hard, but I don't enjoy that. I like a book to be non-fiction discussing a single topic, I enjoy the process of learning about a subject which is structured in a way to actually teach you about it.

I've already stated the reasons why I'm reading the Qu'ran in my previous post. I was given a copy by a Muslim at Uni, and I thought I might as well give it a read out of interest and to get rid of some of my ignorance. I have been quite sceptical when reading it so far, don't worry I don't there's any chance of me being converted lol.



highwaystar101 said:
sapphi_snake said:
highwaystar101 said:

I don't really read fiction I'm afraid, as far as fiction goes I'm mostly Discworld oriented.

I like books about science and nature though, I think I like to learn when I read, it's a big part of my enjoyment. At the moment I'm reading a book called "Quantum theory cannot hurt you", it's not the best book I've ever read if I'm being honest, but it's a nice introduction I suppose.

I'm also reading the Qu'ran, mostly out of interest and partly to get rid of some of my ignorance about Islam. But I've broken it down into smaller portions. I don't plan on reading it all at once, I'm reading chapters inbetween other books.

Wouldn't Quantum Physics for Dummies or Explaining "Quantum Physiscs for Dummies" be a more appropriate introduction into the field?

Anyways, you can learn something from fiction too. It's just not gonna be something explicit. You're gonna have to interpret the text on a superior level, rather than just taking the actions that go on in the book at face value. I think that every (good) fiction author tries to communicate something to the reader, something that's more than just the sum of all the words that make up the text, and more than the actions that make up the narrative.

I also don't get why someone who's not religious would want to read a religious text? What would be the point?

I think introductions to a topic aren't monopolised by "*insert topic here* for dummies", and those ones aren't always the most suitable any way.

I know what you mean about taking the learning from the book by interpreting the story, but that's not what I want. I can read fiction and interpret the text, it's not hard, but I don't enjoy that. I like a book to be non-fiction discussing a single topic, I enjoy the process of learning about a subject which is structured in a way to actually teach you about it.

I've already stated the reasons why I'm reading the Qu'ran in my previous post. I was given a copy by a Muslim at Uni, and I thought I might as well give it a read out of interest and to get rid of some of my ignorance. I have been quite sceptical when reading it so far, don't worry I don't there's any chance of me being converted lol.

I was just joking. Is tehre actually a book called Quantum Physiscs for Dummies???

I understand why you don't like fiction, I guess. I'm just the opposite, and have never been interested in non-fiction books, unless it's a field that really interests me (I do want to read In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, and  Mythologies by Roland Barthes though).

Oh, and I've never felt threatened that I may want to convert after readign a religious text. Not at this point, when I know that are religiosn are lies. It's just that I find no purpose in reading them.



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Machina said:

I read Hitchhiker's Guide years and years ago. Like MrB, I enjoyed the first (though not as much as most people), but then it went rapidly downhill.

I read the synopsis for Neuromancer on Wiki just now and the plot doesn't grab me. Doesn't sound like my kind of sci-fi genre either ('Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth, rather than the far-future settings or galactic vistas found in novels such as Isaac Asimov's Foundation or Frank Herbert's Dune.') I guess I could give Dune a shot, but if it's anything like the film or tv series adaptations I'll lose interest half way through.


oh you are looking for space operas then, I haven't read a recent one of them for ages lol. You could give some Culture books a spin they are in a similar vain as the Foundation series but they from what I have read a rather cerebral without much action, but they are well writen and interesting stories. Dune doesn't seem up you ally at all TBH with it's political interleague and complex mythologies and ecological underpinnings, they are great stories but they can be pretty boring at times, and show their age. 

Another avenue would be Enders game but it's near future...



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Machina said:
zarx said:
Machina said:

Nowadays I'm reading a lot, problem is I rapidly run out of books I'm interested in reading.

At the moment I have a thing for sci-fi, but I'm very particular about what storylines I'll actually enjoy, so I find myself ruling out a lot of 'classics', and modern sci-fi is extremely hit and miss (The Posleen War series is supposed to be brilliant, but I find it barely comprehensible. On the other hand, the Old Man's War series was absolutely fantastic and makes everything else I read pretty crap in comparison :/ ).

Anywho, I'm currently working my way through Asimov's Foundation series. It's not that amazing, but I'm enjoying it enough to want to read the whole series, which gives me about another 8 or so books to go before I'll need to find something else.


Recommendations are more than welcome ^^

Give Neuromancer a try not quite as "clasic" as some and not modern Sci fi ether. A seminal work in the cyberpunk genre it's definatly an interesting read and also not that long. It is a bit strange tho and has some drugs, sex and space rastafarians!!!

especially reccomended if you like Ghost in the Shell/The Matrix

Oh an if you have not read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books go read them now!

I read Hitchhiker's Guide years and years ago. Like MrB, I enjoyed the first (though not as much as most people), but then it went rapidly downhill.

I read the synopsis for Neuromancer on Wiki just now and the plot doesn't grab me. Doesn't sound like my kind of sci-fi genre either ('Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth, rather than the far-future settings or galactic vistas found in novels such as Isaac Asimov's Foundation or Frank Herbert's Dune.') I guess I could give Dune a shot, but if it's anything like the film or tv series adaptations I'll lose interest half way through.

Definately give Dune a go. It really is awesome. I've only read the first two, but the original on its own is just brilliant (and the TV and film adaptations really don't do it justice).

Edit: Also, have you ever read The City and the Stars by Arthur C. Clarke? It really is a fantastic read. You also might want to check out Jack Vance's Tales of the Dying Earth which is a selection of stories set in a ridiculously far flung future where the Eath is in its final years and the Sun is dying out.



highwaystar101 said:

I don't really read fiction I'm afraid, as far as fiction goes I'm mostly Discworld oriented.

I like books about science and nature though, I think I like to learn when I read, it's a big part of my enjoyment. At the moment I'm reading a book called "Quantum theory cannot hurt you", it's not the best book I've ever read if I'm being honest, but it's a nice introduction I suppose.

I'm also reading the Qu'ran, mostly out of interest and partly to get rid of some of my ignorance about Islam. But I've broken it down into smaller portions. I'm not reading it all at once, I'm reading chapters inbetween other books.


A good introduction to quantum physics is Alastair I. M. Rae's Quantum Physics: Illusion or Reality. It can be a bit dense at some points, but its not beyond comprehension, especially if you've encountered some of the ideas before. I prefer it because it maintains a respectable tone and sticks more to the conceptual issues raised by quantum physics while not dumbing the material down too much.



The Halo books are pretty prime.



MrBubbles said:

i liked the first Hitchhiker book, but feel they go downhill after it...i didnt even finish whichever was the last one i was reading (fourth or fifth)

Read any Dirk Gently? I think theres only two of them and its by the same author. I've only read the first but I really enjoyed it.