Indeed :applause:

That was actually quite the read, thanks for sharing Tsudai

That's paranoia because from what I can tell, the laws are already on Sony's side in this case. This ruling isn't going to change that. Is it so hard to see that what he did is wrong? You're allowed to modify your consoles, you're allowed to hack your consoles, hell, you're allowed to convert into a mini aeroplane if you wanted! What you can't do is publicly compromise security.

I'm actually all for homebrew as they do some amazing stuff, but he's really acted stupidly here.

Just posted my thoughts on the analogy, but I'll add a few things.

Your logic is not wrong, but your perspective is not wide enough.

The question is, was there piracy before Geohot cracked open the console? Alot more uncommon I suppose. And what has happened after the works of Geohot? Whatever his intentions were - I can even accept that he's 100% against piracy - he is still accountable to providing a much easier path for pirates and cheaters to accomplish their goals. It's about being a man and take the responsibility of the consequences of your actions.

I believe that IF he's 100% against piracy, he should play it real safe with the code and use it wisely, instead of releasing it to the whole world. See, the right use of a product is necessary for the protection of its consumers. What if the manufacturer of the knives sold freely to little kids as well, knowing that maybe one out of ten of these kids would stab someone in the eye playing with the knives. Should not the manufacturer take responsibility, and from that moment on employ regulations and laws for the protection of the people and their experience with the product.

Protection may seem a little over-protective at times, yet the fact remains that Sony is the creator of the PS3, so the creator has set the boundaries for interactions with their creation.

The PS3 already does alot. I know it doesn't do everything like it sensationally claims, but still for a console, it does enough. Sometimes as consumers we should just be content, or simply support someone else.

This whole thing seems to gained its spark from the removal of Linux. That act of Sony was done in protection from pirates - it's sad but not without good reason. Like seriously, why wouldn't Sony want their product to have one more function if it could without jeopardising security? The more things you do, the more appealing the product is, the better it should sell - it's common sense. I don't believe Sony is happy to remove one of their features that was promised with the PS3; they don't sit there and think, "Suck it, consumers! You thought you could install Linux, but not anymore!" No, but perhaps it's more like, "Shit, pirates have found a way through. Linux seems to be the weakness...Sigh, I guess we have to remove it for the bigger picture."

To sue Geohot is a stance that should be taken. Otherwise to me as a PS3-user it'll just seem like the creators don't even give a shit about the state of their creation. And also, again, Geohot should take some responsibility as he did something that wasn't in line with the creator's intention, and he did it in full knowledge of the channel that would be opened by his actions. The suing will not take down the pirates, hence they're hard at work at their infamous firmware updates too. But the suing is an expected, decent message in a lesson of trust and respect.

I love how people are just ignoring that and posting crap like we'll have no rights with what we buy in the future if SONY wins. If a manufacturer makes something that people don't like, it won't sell and they'll just lose out on R&D. 

He aint getting any of my money, especially after that particular rap video.

And I love how you assume that corporations do not get their heads together in order for mutual benefit. Why do you think oil prices are so high, yet big oil continues to reap bigger profits every year? If one of those big corporations broke the trend, they'd ALL have to follow suit, but they're not, are they?

If profits are involved, corporations WILL work together, whether it's Sony, Microsoft OR Nintendo.

@ Fordy:

Yes, indeed it's already like that, hence you press "I agree" to the terms whenever you begin using a new product.

And hence the following:

Competition will prevent total corporate dominance from happening. If Sony starts to become really unfair with their terms and totally unreasonable - even changing their PS3 motto to "It only does one thing, only when we allow you to!", then I'll be the first to switch sides and become a Xbox fanboi =)

And if indeed ALL companies are starting to become like that, then I guess that's the time of the one-world government, one-world economy, one-world religion, and soon we'll all be forced to put a chip in our right hands to even have a place in society (which may inevitably come sooner than we think).

But that's more suited for an eschatology thread. As much as I'd like to talk about that topic as a Christian, this little Geohot case is far off that level. It's simply a company holding someone accountable for what they've done, and doing it with sound legal backing. Nothing that we should really be worried about.

You're comparing a need like oil with a luxury like games? Ok, buddy...