| JGarret said: About Malstrom, he is back...here are some parts from his new "the incredible 360" article: Microsoft cannot be pleased at all about the 360′s performance of late. Anyone who thinks this performance is ‘good’ has not been paying attention to the massive amount Microsoft has spent…
Half a billion dollars just for marketing? And what did this get Microsoft? Tepid sales. NPD January 2010: Xbox 360- 332,800 NPD January 2011: Xbox 360- 381,000 OH MY GOODNESS! THAT IS A 48,000 UNIT INCREASE! What co-option! What a selling to the masses! 48,000 unit increase! Oh my! What is not being mentioned is much of the sales is because the Xbox 360 is cannibalizing the PlayStation 3 sales. Just a year or two ago, the PlayStation 3, still after its remodel, was enjoying a surge in sales and all the analysts could not stop getting so excited (from this fantastic site, I had to calm them down). What happened to the Year of the PS3? And Move is completely gone. Of course, in fairness to Sony, Move did not have a half billion dollar marketing budget. That marketing budget alone could be used to build, make, and launch a new console. That is the massive amount of money was spent. ottom line is when the going gets tough, Microsoft only has one tactic to compete: use massive amounts of money to force a market outcome. We witnessed this during the first Xbox where Microsoft blew up billions of dollars and hailed itself as incredible geniuses for making a console that sold as well as the Gamecube. We witnessed this again with the company shoving a billion dollars or so to ‘hide’ the repairs for the bungled launch of the Xbox 360 (with failing hardware, production issues, etc.). Now, with Kinect, Microosft can only try to force a market outcome by pumping money into it (this time, half a billion dollars in marketing for a silly accessory). And, sure enough, it isn’t working. Anyone who thinks Kinect is ‘successful’ is not paying attention to the numbers especially the half billion dollars Microsoft unleashed. Half billion dollars for this result? And even then, the Wii still outsold them during December! I’m telling you, folks, Microsoft cannot be pleased with how this turning out. The only solace they have is just how much worse Sony’s Move performed. I still expect six months from now that ‘Microsoft Mushrooms’, like the 32X mushrooms, will begin infesting used game stores. |
Wow, this guy just hit a new low and that is saying something. There are too many points in there to adress now, I think I might revisit it after work tonight and show how silly it truly is (unless someone beats me to it).
Oh wow what ridiculous numbers.
| Conegamer said: WTH is up with the PSP numbers O.o I know it's likely adjustments, but still |
PSP adjustments? No, it has gotten 2 new MH bundles in Japan.
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| JGarret said: About Malstrom, he is back...here are some parts from his new "the incredible 360" article: Microsoft cannot be pleased at all about the 360′s performance of late. Anyone who thinks this performance is ‘good’ has not been paying attention to the massive amount Microsoft has spent…
Half a billion dollars just for marketing? And what did this get Microsoft? Tepid sales. NPD January 2010: Xbox 360- 332,800 NPD January 2011: Xbox 360- 381,000 OH MY GOODNESS! THAT IS A 48,000 UNIT INCREASE! What co-option! What a selling to the masses! 48,000 unit increase! Oh my! What is not being mentioned is much of the sales is because the Xbox 360 is cannibalizing the PlayStation 3 sales. Just a year or two ago, the PlayStation 3, still after its remodel, was enjoying a surge in sales and all the analysts could not stop getting so excited (from this fantastic site, I had to calm them down). What happened to the Year of the PS3? And Move is completely gone. Of course, in fairness to Sony, Move did not have a half billion dollar marketing budget. That marketing budget alone could be used to build, make, and launch a new console. That is the massive amount of money was spent. ottom line is when the going gets tough, Microsoft only has one tactic to compete: use massive amounts of money to force a market outcome. We witnessed this during the first Xbox where Microsoft blew up billions of dollars and hailed itself as incredible geniuses for making a console that sold as well as the Gamecube. We witnessed this again with the company shoving a billion dollars or so to ‘hide’ the repairs for the bungled launch of the Xbox 360 (with failing hardware, production issues, etc.). Now, with Kinect, Microosft can only try to force a market outcome by pumping money into it (this time, half a billion dollars in marketing for a silly accessory). And, sure enough, it isn’t working. Anyone who thinks Kinect is ‘successful’ is not paying attention to the numbers especially the half billion dollars Microsoft unleashed. Half billion dollars for this result? And even then, the Wii still outsold them during December! I’m telling you, folks, Microsoft cannot be pleased with how this turning out. The only solace they have is just how much worse Sony’s Move performed. I still expect six months from now that ‘Microsoft Mushrooms’, like the 32X mushrooms, will begin infesting used game stores. |
1 For trying hard... LOOL
| NYANKS said: Hey, where do you guys think the Wii will stabilize? |
130-150k seems likely, same for all 3 consoles (PS3 may be 120-140k, PSP 50-60k)
A new game release will likely bump all consoles up by 10ish k if it's an important game...
trestres said:
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Yeah, but still, that's a RIDICULOUS increase compared to last week, and every other console...
@Reach- After reading that comment, it all seems very true and probable. There's no denying the sales are good, but it can also be seen that you'd expect more sales with the amount of money you spent on it.
Not saying I agree, but it's a fair point at the end of the day 
At least he trolls both consoles and not just one....an equal opportunity hater. lol (referring to Malstrom)
kowenicki said:
Oh for god sake... no that post doesn't have any fair points. His post, wherever it is from, is utter bollocks. One more time for the hard of thought.... $500m dollars for qtr 4 (Oct ot Dec) is not remotely abnormal. Lets paint it another way..... MS spent $500m and their sales are up and somehow thats not good.... but Ninty spent almost $500m too and their sales are in free fall... so....? |
I never said is WAS abnormal now, did I?
Nor did I say I agreed.
Nor did I say it was hard fact
But I did say it was possible, and probable.
What IS impressive is how a console in its 6th year is at its peak in sales, whereas in previous gens the next generation would have already started. But there's no denying that many, many people expected the 360 to win this holiday season, and whilst it was great for them, it just didn't happen
Your points are true (though I expect Nintendo would have spent around $250mil, if not less, advertising this winter, but that's just a wild guess), but I expected higher 360 numbers from what I've seen. I expected it to be miles in the lead, akin to the Wii in '08 and '09, but it hasn't done so yet. It may do in the future, but, for the moment, the figures are a bit lower than I expected
EDIT**
Upon reading it again, it isn't actually as clean-cut as I thought it was, which is depressing. I thought he said an additional $500million on top of last year, exclusing dev costs etc. And remembering that Kinect has pushed the 360 into a 6th-year peak is impressive, and should be appluaded. So, yeah. My mistake 
| Nsanity said: The Kinect effect. |
i don't think so. Kinect sales are falling pretty fast as well. Kinect sales have been falling 20-30K every week. At this rate they will be below 100K in a couple weeks. M$ said they wanted to treat Kinect as a 2nd console-- and they spend far more money marketing the Kinect launch than the 360 launch. Kinect had an amazing start but it is selling pretty poorly compared to a console right now.
Most anticipated games of 2011:
Uncharted 3,Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rocksmith
Modern Warfare 3, Super Mario 3D
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