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oniyide said:

^^^ let me just go ahead and stop you right there, anyone who's seen my post b4 already knows im not a hardcore Ninty fan, not even close. Ive only owned 2 Ninty home consoles. GC & Wii. I knew that it wasnt going to beat PS2 I was just shocked that an upstart was able to add more salt to their wounds.  I dont care what Wii sells, I just get slightly pissed when I see it flooded with Just Dance, WiiSports and Fit knock offs, but im starting to care less, cause i got PS3 and honestly thats where most of my gaming is done. 


Well others have stated the games just didn't have wide enough appeal to sell. Furthermore, Nintendo didn't present it right, as the marketing often came across as just another 6th gen system with little identity of its own other than the major first party games.

But this has already been discussed loads of other posts here. Let's have fun with the thread title. The Gamecube got served because it just didn't have the dance moves.



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I loved my gamecube.

Star Fox running around was great. Except 90% of people hated it and want a frue flying ONLY star fox. I would lvoe to see a longer one with combination of the two.

Back on topic, multiplayer online plus Halo gave xbox an advantage.



 

 

Gamecube got beat for several key reasons:

- Odd kiddie appearance, console looked like Barney the Dinosaur's lunchbox

- Little support from third parties

- No 2D Mario, wich was the bread and butter franchise of Nintendo. The Mario game they DID release didn't come out until years after and had limited appeal. And Nintendo's first party lineup in general, which is generally the selling point for a Nintendo console, was pretty weak in terms of appealing to the mass market.

- Being crushed by the much more widely supported and popular PS2, which released a year earlier.

- Kiddie image.

- Nintendo was in decline coming off the lackluster performace of N64

- Odd controller

- No online

I agree though, it was very underrated, considering its low price and solid library. It's topped only by the Dreamcast in terms of underrated consoles. It certainly didn't deserve only 22 million sales. Many great games like Eterntal Darkness, Tales of Symphonia, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, DK Jungle Beat, Donkey Konga, Pikmin, Smash Bros Melee.

While I think the Wii is the far superior console, Gamecube still holds a special appeal to me. The second half of my username is named after it after all :P



Lack of third party games. A lot of the third party games only appeared on xbox and ps2. So it missed a lot of good games. I heard that Nintendo asked too much money (compared to Sony and Microsoft) if a third party wanted to release a game on their system.



IF you don't know... i will tell you why.

I been around for every gen.. ( yes that old ) and if you don't know i tell you.

It started back in the ps1 days... when the ps1 came out, there where only wipeout, and ridge racer... good games, but all the others where crap.. Then somephing happend... over night (i denmark) allmost all my friends got the first ps1 chip... and that we all could understand... freeking free games... incredible.. and never seen before on a home konsol.

Next gen ( the gamecube gen ) it was the same, you could copy ps2 games ( and x-box) but not the gamecube mini disk..  And on top of that ps2 won the biggest marked (the kinderroom) whit titles like eyetoy and singstar.. (later buzz)

Look at this gen.. wii and x-box can be pirated... ( and wii won the kinderromm this round )  I do not think ps3 can cath up, but look at the sales.. the moment the ps3 was hackt, the sales rice.

So there you have it.. gamecube lost momentum, becourse of the ps2 chip was realized...



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Funny looking, and IMO ugly, machine for starters. PS2 was sexy, Xbox was grunty/manly. People shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but they do, so you have to be attractive as well as have a good personality. Actually if you're a whore you mostly only need to be attractive and have certain skills.

Xbox converted a lot of PC gamers into (at least part time) console gamers. Gamecube was never going to draw in that sort of crowd. Halo was a really big part of bringing some of the PC crowd over. And that PC connection is still there to a certain extent, which is why WRPG and FPS games do better on 360 than on PS3/Wii, I reckon.



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Halo, Forza and Fable....

But it wasn't until Halo 2 with Xbox live that really got the Xbox to resonate with gamers.



oniyide said:

To this day i still dont get how GC got beat that badly. I can understand why they couldnt topple PS2, but XBox??? How the hell did that sell more?? and why did it sell more??? Gamecube was actully outselling it in hte very beggining, but things went downhill fast. Was it the lack of DVD drive??? its not like DVD players were expensive. Was it the lack of a proper Mario launch game??? I would have thought the Ninty first party offering would have been enough to trounce the Xbox, it not like Xbox had exclusives comparable to Ninty's IMO. Most of the games worth a damn were avalaible on PS2. Maybe someone could shed some light, because there was no way that an upstart Xbox division should have toppled GC. It was cheaper had the Ninty characters and the controller was more comftable (not for fighters). Was Halo that good (ok, it was but still). When its all said and done, to me the Gamecube signified the end of an era. The day of dedicated home consoles died.  Now we have web browsers, Espn, HuluPlus, Netflix, Facebook, weather updates, Blurays, photoshops and all kinds of other crap that has little to do with games. Im not mad at it, but IMHO the GC was the last true gaming console. No DVD/Bluray crap, on online, no motion gimmicks. Just 100% gaming. Oh well I liked it.

i get so annoyed when people claim lacks of features is a great thing and they become so big headed and proud of it.

should'nt you be that proud if it DID have DVD rather than if it didnt?

psychology falls apart when dealing with nintendo fans the same way physics falls apart when dealing with black holes.



Jumpin said:

Gamecube was aimed at children. Plus the software was fairly unspectacular and uninteresting. Most Nintendo fans got a GBA/DS with a PS2 instead. While you say Gamecube was the last true gaming system (I disagree), it certainly had the weakest catalogue of all of Nintendo's home consoles.


I think I might just hate you for saying that.



In perspective Gamecube tanked at least as hard as Dreamcast did. It only managed to double Dreamcast figures, a console that was dead just two years after its release and with terrible first party sales compared to Gamecube.

In my opinion, it sounds harsh but it is what a truly think, Gamecube failed miserably  due to its poor first party titles, for Nintendo standards of course, and let's not forget about their non-existent third party offerings though I will always remember that masterpiece called Resident Evil Remake, thanks to this title Gamecube wasn't born in vain.

 First party and third party games wise Wii destroys Gamecube.