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Joelcool7 said:
Trentonater said:

how did you find out about this?If i were a leader i would help the man but do they know this is happening?


I was searching the news on Yahoo News. I found a couple articles about it and freaked. I got a reply from my Member of Parliament today saying that the Canadian Government is aware of the situation and is doing all it can to prevent the execution. Though I haven't heard anything on the news about it (local or national) I would hope that if it happens that our governments condem it majorily. But I should hope our Governments can pressure the Afghan Government.

Email your members of parliament, or what ever they have in your country (Congress) or such. We need to do something.

 

Probably a chat with the Ambassador of the USA to say USA should do something about it..>_>..





 

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SamuelRSmith said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

You know almost no country that went in battle in Afganistan won. The entire U.S. intervention in Afghanistan has been a waste of time. Afghanistan is unwinnable and will probably never change.


I disagree, if we had different intentions, the outcome would have been much different. If the war had been a full scale invasion a la Iraq, Afghanistan would have been in a much better position by now.

Well, that's my view.

If the point was to crush the Taliban forces into fleeing then the US could have won that war long ago. The point though is that we are playing where is Waldo, some CIA reports indicate Bin Laden may be in Pakistan.

If you should know anything about Afganistan it's that after the US leaves they will have a booming glass economy.

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There is another side to the story of course, between Iraq and Afganistan the US presence is wanted by a majority of the pro decocracy camps. In Iraq they even built a monument as thanks to US soldiers for keeping them safe.

It's going to hurt them more than us if we leave pretty much. It's almost like that cat you gave a little food to and it trys to follow you home. =/

Right now though in Afganistan the Taliban are waiting us out, they know we are packing up and they are just waiting. The people over there are scared to hell only because they know that old saying is going to be true once more. "Empires come and go but the Taliban is here to stay." To them there is no hope.



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scottie said:
Joelcool7 said:
scottie said:

Was this supposed to be a joke? or are you actually comparing converting to Christianity to murder? How anyone can condone or justify murder of an innocent man is beyond me. If your actually comparing conversion to murder that is sick. If your making a joke, haha but its something to serious to be joking about. Killing a man for his religious beliefs is wrong in any sense of the word. Conversion is in no way like murder.


No, not a joke.

 

There is no excuse for murder. Whatever justification you provide, it is still murder. By supporting some murders, you lose all right to oppose all other murders.

Your right murder is murder but who says I support murder? And what right does it give you to compare a convert to Christianity to a murderer?

For your info I agree with my Government (Canada) and don't believe in the death sentence, so infact I don't agree with killing anyone for any reason, other then self defence or defence of others. So I'm not being hypocritical in any sense of the word.

Fact is this man did not commit any crime, he converted to Christianity which is his right. He should be able to believe in which ever God or lack of God that he wants to. Its basic human rights and the Afghan Government is violating those rights.

The Afghan Government is about to commit murder. Especially since even if I agreed with the death sentence it would be completely unjustifiable. Freedom of religion is a basic freedom that every man women and child should be free to believe what ever they want.



-JC7

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Yay thanks to the actions of North America and European Governments the convert was freed. He was offered asylum in several countries and is now out of Afghanistan. However the Afghan Government may still execute another man for converting soon, he has yet to go to trial.

Lets hope our Governments keep pushing Afghanistan for religious freedoms. Infact we should demand they put more in their laws to protect converts.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

SpartenOmega117 said:

You know almost no country that went in battle in Afganistan won. The entire U.S. intervention in Afghanistan has been a waste of time. Afghanistan is unwinnable and will probably never change.


Unwinnable in which way?

I will agree that Afghanistan is a lost cause/failed nation and will never (at least not in my lifetime) be a first world democratic nation; but they would be easy as shit to win a full scale war against. If the US armed forces had the full support of the US public and UN to launch a full scale war on Afghanistan they would win in a month.